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  • Let’s talk about monitoring audio because Intensity’s is not good!

    Posted by Justin Ferar on July 31, 2007 at 1:35 am

    I was thinking about purchasing a mixer that can handle firwire in and avoid the Black Magic Intensity Pro’s RCA outs but I have ZERO experience with these.

    I’ve looked at Alesis and M-Audio as they both look fine. Just want to make sure that they in fact do what I think they do, which is take in the audio from FCP via firewire and send it out of a blanced XLR. The mixers start at around $500.

    Maybe you all have a better solution? Separate audio card? Optical out solution?

    Let’s hear it!

    Justin Ferar replied 18 years, 9 months ago 5 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Thaxter Clavemarlton

    July 31, 2007 at 5:12 am

    You can only have one FW A/V device connected to the Mac at one time.

  • Justin Ferar

    July 31, 2007 at 5:40 am

    Hi Thax,

    So yeah, that one firewire device would be “audio out via firewire”. I don’t use firewire for my current set up- all I/O is going in and out of the Intensity card which is a PCIe device.

    In other words I can set video out to Black Magic Intensity and set audio out to firewire.

  • Jerry Hofmann

    July 31, 2007 at 5:42 am

    If you send the audio to one device and send the video out another, it’s likely to not be in sync…

    Better solution is a capture card with quality audio ouputs… a Kona LH series card would be the right thing here… lose the intensity altogether.

    Jerry

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  • Walter Biscardi

    July 31, 2007 at 9:19 am

    [Jerry Hofmann] “If you send the audio to one device and send the video out another, it’s likely to not be in sync…”

    Absolutely. If you are using a capture card, you absolutely should monitor the audio and video from that capture card. If you split the playback, it will most likely be out of sync.

    Audio mixer is not the solution, a different I/O device would be a better answer.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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  • Ben Holmes

    July 31, 2007 at 9:46 am

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the Intensity the HDMI in/out card? So the card allows audio/video playback and capture via HDMI.

    Can’t you hook the card up to an A/V Amp with HDMI in? That way you can use the digital audio straight off the card.

    Otherwise, you will have to bite the bullet and buy a professional capture card with professional audio in/outs. Both Kona and BM are recommended.

    Ben

    Editec Broadcast Editing Ltd

    EVS & FCP specialists for live broadcast.

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  • Justin Ferar

    July 31, 2007 at 5:21 pm

    Ben,

    Yes the Intensity is an HDMI card which mates perfectly with our JVC BR-HD50 HDV deck. I have not thought about an AV amp with HDMI in. I think it would work. The only thing that I would be worried about is HDCP. That would add another “handshake” to the system which doesn’t always function perfectly already.

    I may try it as it’s not a very expensive solution and I can always return the thing.

    Thanks!

  • Justin Ferar

    July 31, 2007 at 5:30 pm

    After my experience with the Intensity Pro I’m quite surprised at all the magazines who have awarded it has “pick hit” or “viddy”. No one at any magazine actually used one.

    In case anyone is wondering- this is not a professional solution and really doesn’t belong in a dedicated edit suite.

    Digitizing via HDMI is mercurial
    RCA audio is not acceptable
    Constantly loses connection while editing in FCP

    We need HDMI becuase of our JVC deck so we’ll eventually go with io HD or BM Eclipse as details emerge on the two.

  • Ben Holmes

    July 31, 2007 at 5:49 pm

    Any current AV amp would be HDCP compliant – but it shouldn’t apply here because you’re dealing with your own footage, there’s no copy protection to worry about.

    Also, ensure the amp has a video passthrough, component or HDMI, so you can monitor pics in sync.

    Must stress – not tried this, just conjecture.

    Ben

    Editec Broadcast Editing Ltd

    EVS & FCP specialists for live broadcast.

    OB Server 1 HD – Mobile FCP editing done right.
    https://www.editecuk.com/OBServer2.html

  • Justin Ferar

    July 31, 2007 at 11:30 pm

    Well I went out and bought an AV amp with HDMI pass through. Works great except for the fact that it doesn’t convert the HDMI audio to analog for connection to my mixer and reference monitors. One could just use the amp’s speaker connections with home speakers but I have dedicated monitoring system that only accepts XLR or TRS.

    Oh well.

    HELLO io HD!

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