Let’s get back to basics…

[Shane Ross]

A lot of what you listed are Avid tools. Animatte, Multiple trim points, auto patch…

FCP is not Avid. They are not trying to make it Avid. They have their own tools and their own way of doing things. You have to get used to the FCP way of cutting.

Avid doesn’t allow me to grab clips on the timeline and drag them all over the place without hitting one of the SELECT tools, Keyframing audio requires that I hold down OPTION to move it left or right, I need to use FILLER to make a hole to give me room to edit. When is Avid gonna fix that and make it more FCP like?

Different app…different tools.

Shane

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http://www.lfhd.net

[Carsten Orlt]

what about the list of missing features from Avid so it would appeal to FCP users.

Some people are never happy . . .

I just reply to your post while I should reply to all the ‘not happy’ post and ask at what point the really tiring Avid-FCP comparison stops.

You want an Avid for the price of FCP that does all the thinks Avid does and After Effects and Combustion and Shake and Flame and…..

Nothing is perfect and never will be.

Back to work now for me!

[Dan Riley]

Like you, I sometimes compare my AVID experiences to FCP.
But the thing I keep coming back to is that Apple isn’t after “the AVID folks”.
They are going over their heads with apps and hardware that works for
more people more of the time. Today in the Apple presentation they listed
in 2005 FCP had 250,000 registered users. Today it’s over 800,000.
AVID numbers are not growing nearly that fast on the editing side.
AVID is selling systems to broadcasters for news playback and other things,
but the editor and program creators, using laptops, making stuff you see
everyday, those are the people Apple is going after.

I don’t disagree with you at all that there are some features I REALLY WISH
FCP would add especially in capture and edit to tape, but it keeps getting better and better, and at a price point AVID doesn’t seem to want to match. And it’s scalable,
much better than AVID’s offerings.

Dan

[Rcpics]

Funny…I worked in both Avid and Accom’s Sphere before going to FCP when v. 2 came out, and found FCP to be sort of an amalgm of the two interfaces. But I absolutely prefer FCP’s ergonomics, which I find just more intuitive and streamlined for pure editing, but still prefer some of Avid’s featursets for film work. Some of Les’s suggestions would be nice, but at this point, I just don’t miss them when in FCP. Some things take a bit more time or steps, but once you’re used to them, it doesn’t matter.

[Rene Hazekamp]

I’ve a very flexible capture tool for fcp (2 to 6), I call him/ her trainee.
Does everything I need, in the background while I’am multitasking in an espresso bar.

come on fcp 6 is a great tool, I’am only disappointed that it doesn’t make me a better editor.

Rene Hazekamp

portfolio https://www.renehazekamp.com

powerbook 145 4MB/ramdoubler

[Andy Mees]

For the minor interface tweaks (naming tracks, resizable waveforms, custom text sizes etc) we’ll find out all this over the next few days. Often a quick trip through the User Preferences tabs can reveal a lot more of the lower level than a big splashy demo. Meaning, Apple are unlikely to have addressed such relatively unimportant enhancements when there were really major new features to trumpet …but fear not, our trusty NAB reporters will find out anything there is to discover.

As to the other more significant improvements that were oft requested, such as improved keyframe handling, multiple trim point capabilities, smart bins etc etc … well, yes, first impressions suggest that FCP itself has not seen many aggresive improvements at that level, as we might have expected a shopping list of these enhancements, but its still a little early to a draw conclusions.

And even if nothing new does surface, I’d still gladly take open format timelines and robust MM performance over the point release stuff any day of the week.

[Les Kaye]

Thanks Andy and I pretty much agree. Just hoping they don’t forget the “little things”.

[Andy Mees] “And even if nothing new does surface, I’d still gladly take open format timelines and robust MM performance over the point release stuff any day of the week.”

[Adam Claude jones]

Well said Shane! Some people sound like they want an Avid by Apple. So just buy Avid!

[David Bogie]

Your list of basics is nothing like my list of stuff that’s either been broken (or left out of FCP deliberately) since v1.

I don’t see much on your list that interests me in the slightest. Not that’s it’s a bad list, it just illustrates the problem the development team faces: Whose bugs and features do they work on?

bogiesan

This is my standard sigfile so do not take it personally: “For crying out loud, read the freakin’ manual.”

[David Smith]

[rene hazekamp] “I’ve a very flexible capture tool for fcp (2 to 6), I call him/ her trainee.”

What!? Apple doesn’t provide a Trainee with every FCS2? Those cheap so-n-sos. Avid does, don’t they?

Very funny post Rene, thank you. While the “LOL” acronym is way over used on the web, I really did laugh out loud.

Off to the Espresso bar,
David