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  • laying off to a dsr11

    Posted by Tanis on September 13, 2005 at 7:26 pm

    Can you print to video with specific timecode using a sony DSR-11 DVCAM deck?
    I would like to start my program on the tape at 1:00:00:00 and it seems to always start every tape at 00:00.

    Shane Ross replied 20 years, 8 months ago 4 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Kevin Monahan

    September 13, 2005 at 7:33 pm

    No you cannot customize Timecode settings in the DSR-11. The DSR-40 will do it. So will a PD-150 camcorder. Most every high end DV deck will prestripe TC, but the DSR-11 is the low end on pro video decks and will not. There might be a workaround using Simple Video Out. I’m sure someone will post that here.

    Kevin Monahan
    Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro
    fcpworld.com

  • Tanis

    September 13, 2005 at 7:44 pm

    on the page at sony it says that in DVCAM modeyou can copoy the timecode from a non-tape source when recodrding to tape.

  • Craig Seeman

    September 13, 2005 at 7:59 pm

    In DVCAM mode the DSR11 can take external code over firewire. The problem is FCP doesn’t send the TC from the timeline out. Actually this DID WORK in an earlier version of FCP (FCP3) but not “officially”

    People have used this to prestripe a tape in the DSR11 and then Assembled on to it but it may not be frame accurate.
    https://developer.apple.com/samplecode/SimpleVideoOut/SimpleVideoOut.html

  • Shane Ross

    September 14, 2005 at 2:36 am

    Here is the solution that someone found and that I have used successfully several time.

    TC to DSR-11

    Since FCP 4 we have been unable to stripe a new TC such as 00:58:00:00 or 01:58:00:00 to a DVCAM tape with the DSR-11. NO MORE!! I think I found a solution.

    Get SimpleVideoOut from the Apple (its free):

    https://developer.apple.com/samplecode/SimpleVideoOut/SimpleVideoOut.html

    Then create a QT Movie in FCP or Xpress Pro from a sequence which has the starting TC you want on the tape. I just tried it with 00:58:00:00. In the timeline, I just put Bars & Tone for 90 seconds and a black slug for 45 (to take me over 01:00:00:00). You could create a sequence with whatever combination you wanted with the TC set to start at whatever timecode you need for your choice. But the Timeline TC MUST be set to your desired starting code. The exported QT file will have this TC in it.

    Then load this DV QT movie into SimpleVideoOut (having selecting Firewire / Apple Firewire PAL or NTSC when you open the app).

    Now load a fresh DVCAM tape and set your DSR-11 to:

    REC MODE = DVCAM
    DV IN TC = EXTERNAL

    (Have the TC display turned on for this first test so you can verify it has worked.)

    Then just hold the REC and PLAY buttons together on the DSR-11 and press play in the SimpleVideoOut app and the new TC will be recorded to your DVCAM tape. Hey presto you are now able to stripe a tape with what ever timecode you want using a DSR-11.

    Remember to turn ‘DV IN TC’ back to INTERNAL on the DSR-11 when you come to record your edit to tape.

    The problem with the DSR-11 is that it is not the best deck and starting recording at the exact TC, but playing with the pre-rolls should eventually get it spot on. I have had some success with FCP’s ‘Edit to Tape’ and very good results with Avid Xpress Pro after a few tweaks.

    Also, if you just had a black QT file, you can change the starting TC to suite the tape; i.e. 00:58:00:00 or 02:58:00:00 etc without going back into FCP or Xpress Pro and rendering out another QT. To do this, just use Sebsky Tools to alter the starting TC of the file.
    https://www.dharmafilm.com/sebskytools/

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