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  • Kona vs Software upres for footage already acquired

    Posted by Robin Remde on June 17, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    I am prepping a feature for DVD that was shot in SD (DV) and letterboxed (groan… I know), and naturally, the footage has significant artifacting. I am considering up-resing the output in hopes of softening scan lines, and allowing the film to be digitally projected in a theater. I am considering using an Kona card because I have read that the hardware based upres is superior to the software based upres, even using Magic Bullet. My question is: is there a workflow that remains digital, or do I have to use the Kona card to output to a device, and then re-ingest the footage?

    Robin Remde replied 15 years, 10 months ago 4 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    June 17, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    [Robin Remde] ” I am considering up-resing the output in hopes of softening scan lines, and allowing the film to be digitally projected in a theater”

    Uprezzing won’t soften them, if anything, it will make them bigger. I mean, they are there. I have seen the Kona 3 slightly soften them, to hide them. But nothing major. But if you want to upconvert your footage in hopes of cleaning it up…it’s not gonna do that.

    [Robin Remde] “is there a workflow that remains digital, or do I have to use the Kona card to output to a device, and then re-ingest the footage? “

    The Kona only works it’s magic on INPUT or OUTPUT. It won’t work on converting footage already captured, unless you output.

    No, upconverting the footage in an attempt to soften it and clean it up, IMHO, isn’t the way to go. Rendering out in ProRes NTSC might help. Or adding the 4:1:1 smoothing filter from nattress.com. Other solutions.

    Shane

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  • Eric Pautsch

    June 17, 2010 at 11:17 pm

    Yep….bottom line is that DV sucks. Bitvice has a good preprocessing filter but there’s very little you can do here.

  • John Heagy

    June 18, 2010 at 12:06 am

    DV (4:1:1) to MPEG(4:2:0) is worst case. DV averages to a single “hue” horizontally, then gets gets averaged vertically when compressed to 4:2:0.

  • Robin Remde

    July 7, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    Thanks all for your input – Shane, thanks for the nattress suggestion – a lot of the cenes are poorly lit night scenes, so the color smoothing might just be the best option. I think (or hope) everyone here understands the serious limitations of DV – hell, even HDV would have been better – but the content is strong, and was produced by someone with zero technical experience (even the DV is cropped to widescreen rather than shot anamorphically). Yes, DV will always be DV, but anything I can do to minimize the artifacting will be a plus.

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