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  • Kona RAID level… polling the forum?

    Posted by Mitch Ives on June 8, 2008 at 7:58 pm

    Up until now we have been using RAID 0 for most of our RAIDS. It seems we can never have too much throughput with HDCAM, etc. Now we’re setting up a new 8-drive RAID, so I thought I’d poll the collective genius here:

    Are most of you using RAID 0… RAID 5… RAID 6? Whatever thoughts, recommendations, wisdom, warnings, etc. that anyone cares to share would be appreciated…

    Mitch Ives
    Insight Productions Corp.
    mi***@****************ns.com

    Scott Shucher replied 17 years, 10 months ago 10 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 8, 2008 at 10:20 pm

    Well, I personally use raid 4. If you’re array supports raid 5, I’d say do that. Raid6 takes out two drives therefore cutting your capacity way down.

    Raid 0 is a gamble. Swim at your own risk. You lose one drive, you lose the entire array.

    What array do you have? What codec do you capture to?

  • Gary Adcock

    June 9, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] ” If you’re array supports raid 5, I’d say do that”

    I agree, however if you are in a real fault tolerant place nothing beats raid 6

    most of my arrays( 6 of 8) are at RAID 6 the other 2 only support raid 5 so they use that

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows
    Inside look at the IoHD

  • Bob Zelin

    June 9, 2008 at 9:08 pm

    If you use the ATTO R380 card (Sonnet product line), you will use RAID 4, which is like RAID 5, but does block level RAID. This is the most popular. RAID 6 lets 2 drives fail, and you can keep going, but you loose at least 2 of your drives for backup (and more for the redundancy of the compressed data), and the thruput of the drive array (how fast the drive is) goes down. Modern 8 bay drive arrays from Dulce, Maxx, Cal Digit, G-Tech, Sonnet, etc. are all super fast, and all offer RAID protection. Choose one of these good companies (or even the Apple/Promise VTrak at it’s insanely high price), and you will be very happy with the performance.

    The people who suffer continue to use single Lacie FW800 drives. Everyone using modern 8 bay RAID arrays from any of the good companies are flying along with no issues.

    Bob Zelin

  • Dan Brockett

    June 9, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    RAID 0 but I do have backups of everything on other storage drives. My RAID is too small to run it RAID 5 at this point. Once I upgrade the drives to larger drives, will be going RAID 5.

    Dan

    Providing value added material to all of your favorite DVDs

  • Bob Zelin

    June 9, 2008 at 10:36 pm

    RAID 0 is great, but is not so great when a drive fails (as everyone else has said in this thread). Some people NEVER have failures with RAID 0, others have failures on a regular basis. This is why you see people say “so and so SUCKS” – because they lost a drive, when countless others never have an issue.

    Bob Zelin

  • Dan Brockett

    June 9, 2008 at 10:43 pm

    Yes, I agree, RAID 0 is living dangerously. Fortunately I am not an editor by trade and just use my system for occasional projects for clients. If I were an editor, I wouldn’t chance RAID 0, it’s for cheap dummies like me ;-). It’s an eight drive RAID 0 that I built also so there eight chances for this thing to crash and burn.

    At least I hae it all backed up on storage drives.

    Dan

    Providing value added material to all of your favorite DVDs

  • Ron Craig

    June 10, 2008 at 12:36 am

    I followed Bob Zelin’s advice when I was setting up my system and went with RAID 5. As he indicated above, everything has gone swimmingly ever since; no problems.

    That being said, before there was a RAID 5 I used to work with RAID 0 arrays. Frankly, never had a problem with them either.

    But I really like the safety of RAID 5.

    Lee

  • Tom Brooks

    June 10, 2008 at 2:43 am

    RAID-5. Spares on the shelf. Works for my level of risk.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 10, 2008 at 3:21 am

    [Ron Craig] “I used to work with RAID 0 arrays. Frankly, never had a problem with them either.”

    And it’s not until you have a problem that you realize what you are paying for.

    Jeremy

  • Olivier Aubut

    June 11, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    I use a HUGE by Ciprico that only does RAID 0 and 3. I recently had a disk that failed, so I replaced it with a new one and the HUGE rebuilt RAID in an hour. Now to me this is pretty fail safe. What are the advantages of working with RAID 5 over RAID 3 ?
    Olivier

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