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  • KONA LHe HDV Hardware Acceleration?

    Posted by Bruce Feagle on June 30, 2007 at 5:11 am

    Hello,

    Does anyone have any experience with how much hardware acceleration the KONA LHe card has for HDV? I was looking at the Blackmagic Design Intensity Pro until I found out it isn’t ready for non-intel Macs. I have a duel core G5.

    If the Kona card does help with HDV I would consider it.

    Bruce

    John Ladle replied 18 years, 10 months ago 7 Members · 12 Replies
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  • David Roth weiss

    June 30, 2007 at 7:28 am

    [Bruce Feagle] “Does anyone have any experience with how much hardware acceleration the KONA LHe card has for HDV?”

    Bruce,

    Blackmagic and Kona cards are video capture cards not hardware accelerator cards.

    Unlike the Blackmagic cards, the Kona cards do scale both HDV and DVCProHD via hardware onboard the card, taking that burden off the computer processors, however that is the extent of the hardware acceleration.

    “No job is worth doing more than once…”

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

  • Bruce Feagle

    June 30, 2007 at 2:21 pm

    [David Roth Weiss] “the Kona cards do scale both HDV and DVCProHD via hardware onboard the card, taking that burden off the computer processors, however that is the extent of the hardware acceleration.”

    hmmm.. Scaling only. How can AJA and an un-named sales person claim HDV acceleration? Kind of a stretch. Pun intended. 🙂 What I want is an inexpensive way to monitor my edit on the big screen.

    Thanks guys.

    Bruce

  • Graeme Nattress

    June 30, 2007 at 2:51 pm

    AFAIK the BMD cards also do that hardware scaling – they just don’t go on about it or call it acceleration.

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

  • David Roth weiss

    June 30, 2007 at 6:27 pm

    [Graeme Nattress] “AFAIK the BMD cards also do that hardware scaling – they just don’t go on about it or call it acceleration.”

    That’s funny Graeme. AJA sure had me fooled. I guess that’s what marketing hype is all about about.

    David

    “No job is worth doing more than once…”

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

  • Walter Biscardi

    June 30, 2007 at 6:39 pm

    [Bruce Feagle] “hmmm.. Scaling only. How can AJA and an un-named sales person claim HDV acceleration? Kind of a stretch. Pun intended. 🙂 What I want is an inexpensive way to monitor my edit on the big screen.”

    Because the scaling is CPU intensive. By the Kona performing the scaling operation, this opens up a lot more realtime functionality within the system. You get more transitions, filters and the like by using the AJA Kona boards.

    So it’s not a stretch at all.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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  • John Ladle

    July 2, 2007 at 1:18 am

    [Graeme Nattress] “AFAIK the BMD cards also do that hardware scaling – they just don’t go on about it or call it acceleration.”

    there is hardware acceleration in the kona product and that is unique to the kona product. it taps into the RT extreme architecture and the kona LH applies hardware scaling to the HDV, XDCAM or DVCPRO HD. it does produce realtime as you can play back more than a dozen streams of those formats at once on a dual 2.0 G-5.

    FWIW.

    -j

  • Chris Poisson

    July 2, 2007 at 12:32 pm

    Bruce,

    If you have an Apple Cinema display or other large monitor, you already have a cheap monitoring solution, just go into the view menu in FCP and select ACD full screen. Your DVI port is quite capable of sending a great image.

    If you get a Matrox MXO, you can also calibrate the same monitor, but for viewing you can already do that.

  • Martin Baker

    July 3, 2007 at 8:56 pm

    Hmmm I dunno. Have to agree with Graeme, I’m not convinced that AJA has any more secret sauce than BMD does in this area. Appears to be just hardware scaling from FCP timeline to the HD-SDI output.

    Martin
    Digital Heaven, London UK

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  • John Ladle

    July 3, 2007 at 9:07 pm

    well, that would be more toward the opinion end of things and not science. i set up a test, put in 16 HDV clips and see which one renders and which one plays back, there is your scientfic answer.

  • David Roth weiss

    July 3, 2007 at 9:40 pm

    Martin, Graeme, et al:

    Here’s interesting text quoted directly from the Kona 3 Product Brochure. I’m not saying I know it to be 100% accurate or not, but they do use the word “exclusively,” so perhaps the BM cards are mising something after all.

    “Final Cut Pro users will love our DVCPROHD, HVD, and Apple Dynamic RT Extreme hardware acceleration, developed in close cooperation with Apple and available exclusively on high-end Kona cards.”

    David

    “No job is worth doing more than once…”

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

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