Kona and Magic Bullet Looks

[Walter Biscardi]

[Bob Pierce] ” I called Red Giant support, and they informed me that Magic Bullet does not support the Kona.”

They have no clue what they are talking about. The kona has nothing to do with plug-ins. There is nothing to write to support the Kona or the BM cards since they are simply output devices. If you’re seeing blockiness, those are bad renders and that is something that Red Giant would have to address.

On the very few occasions we’ve used Looks here, there have been no issues.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
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[Bob Pierce]

Maybe I’ve misunderstood. I thought what he was telling me was that the Kona was handling some of the rendering. Whatever the reason for the problem, he said that the Kona was the issue.
Bob

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Mac Book Pro 2.33 Duo –
FC Studio 2 (Final Cut 6.0.3) – Kona Lhe
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Sony Multiformat 14″ – Panasonic 42″ Plasma –
Ikegami HLDV7 – PVW EX-1

[Jeremy Garchow]

Your Kona is still putputting 8bit Uncompressed, so if it’s a Kona issue it’d be showing up there too. I’d call this a codec issue and it’s MBs fault.

Jeremy

[Bob Pierce]

They told me that the Kona can play the rendered files, but that Magic Bullet can’t render with a Kona installed on the computer.

I dropped some non-prores footage into my sequence (DV), applied the same filters (CC and MB), set sequence settings to preset “Aja kona Pro res ntsc 422” and rendered. This clip renders fine with no green blockies. It seems that MB doesn’t like it when the original footage is pro res. I’ve tried DVCPRO HD and XDCAM EX footage in all sorts of rendering situations and I can’t replicate the problem – only with the footage captured pro res.

Thanks for your input, guys.
Bob

http://www.lightstreamassociates.com

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FC Studio 2 (Final Cut 6.0.3) – Kona Lhe
Adobe Production Suite CS3 –
Sony Multiformat 14″ – Panasonic 42″ Plasma –
Ikegami HLDV7 – PVW EX-1

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Bob Pierce] “This clip renders fine with no green blockies.”

OK. The real test would be to pull your Kona card to see if then renders green, or call AJA and see if they have heard of this.

[Walter Biscardi]

[Bob Pierce] “They told me that the Kona can play the rendered files, but that Magic Bullet can’t render with a Kona installed on the computer. “

Utter and complete BS. We have three Kona systems, all have Magic Bullet on them. All can render just fine.

The Kona has ZERO to do with Magic Bullet’s Renders. All it does is play back the files and allow you to ingest and output from audio / video sources. If you’re having problems with ProRes, that’s Red Giant’s problem. Apple makes that codec and Magic Bullet has to be able to render to that codec properly.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
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[Bob Pierce]

Thanks Walter. I think you must be right. Looks will render TO a pro res sequence but doesn’t like to render FROM a pro res clip. I’ll talk to Red Giant again tomorrow and bug them about this. Thanks for your help.
Bob

http://www.lightstreamassociates.com

Mac Pro 2.66 – 8GB memory – Mac OS 10.5.2 – Quicktime 7.4.5 –
Mac Book Pro 2.33 Duo –
FC Studio 2 (Final Cut 6.0.3) – Kona Lhe
Adobe Production Suite CS3 –
Sony Multiformat 14″ – Panasonic 42″ Plasma –
Ikegami HLDV7 – PVW EX-1

[Walter Biscardi]

[Bob Pierce] “I’ll talk to Red Giant again tomorrow and bug them about this. “

I’m already ahead of you on this one. 🙂

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
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[Gary Adcock]

[walter biscardi] “tter and complete BS. We have three Kona systems, all have Magic Bullet on them. All can render just fine. The Kona has ZERO to do with Magic Bullet’s Renders”

Here here.

FCP does not allow for a video card to handle any of the “render” properties. A card can accelerate via an active scaling function (like Kona) or to handle proprietary compression formats(ProRes) but
Apple does not allow for any video card to accelerate rendering of any type.

FYI
those green flashes are the failure of your CPU to properly handle the ProRes content. – ProRes HQ really needs/ wants at the VERY LEAST a quad intel machine with 8 Gigs of RAM for realtime processing.

anything less than that CPU config you are asking for an issue with ProRes’ HQ content.

gary adcock
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[Bob Pierce]

Thanks, Gary.
I’m using a Mac Pro with 2 dual-core Zeon 2.66 with 8 gig of ram. Is this adequate?
Perhaps not.
Thanks!
Bob

http://www.lightstreamassociates.com

Mac Pro 2.66 – 8GB memory – Mac OS 10.5.2 – Quicktime 7.4.5 –
Mac Book Pro 2.33 Duo –
FC Studio 2 (Final Cut 6.0.3) – Kona Lhe
Adobe Production Suite CS3 –
Sony Multiformat 14″ – Panasonic 42″ Plasma –
Ikegami HLDV7 – PVW EX-1