Kona 2 Component and Composite out at the same time???

[Chris Poisson]

Joey,

Do you have a Beta deck? I run composite out of mine for VHS.

[Joey Korenman]

We do have a Beta deck and a DBeta deck too, but they are wired in to a rack which is shared by 3 systems. It’d be better not to have to tie up the Beta deck just to run a VHS dub because we’re always busy with all 3 systems.

We have a sony PVM monitor which is pretty new, and it can definitely loop S-video out, so I wonder if it can also loop composite out from a component source. I’ll look into it.

Any more suggestions? Thanks!!

joey

[Gary Adcock]

[Joey Korenman] ” Can the Kona 2 somehow run both a component and composite signal out? We’re planning on ordering the KBox as well if that helps. “

No the composite signal uses the Y/G cable (green) of the analog component
cable so the is no way to get both at the same time. The Kbox will not help you.

gary adcock

Studio37
HD and Film Consultation

[Bob Zelin]

This is accurate information. The AJA I/O, which does not do HD, will give you simultaneous SDI, composite, component and S-Video outputs. However the Kona 2 – even with the K Box – will only give you analog component, or SDI out (and of course HD SDI out). The advice of looping thru your Beta VTR to get the composite out is good advice.

There is great demand for users who only have SD applications to buy the Kona 2 HD card, instead of the AJA I/O or Kona LS, even though these products would serve their needs better. Everyone is so paranoid of “preparing for the future” – but as most of you know, things will be different by next year, and every year after that – so no matter what you buy now – EVEN IF IT HAD EVERYTHING YOU NEED NOW – you will STILL have to spend more money next year. Why – because – this is the way our industry works.

Bob Zelin

[Chris Poisson]

Hey Bob,

Well, based on your comments in another post, I for one think that the MUltibridge will be the solution that will help stave off the inevitable longer than any of these other solutions. So I’m gonna wait a couple of months.

[Walter Biscardi]

[Joey Korenman] “Hey all. We’re getting ready to chuck our old CineWave card and get a Kona 2. “

Congrats Joey! I chucked the ol’ CineWave last year pretty much right after NAB 2004. Trust me, the Kona 2 is definitely the right way to go.

Now as others have mentioned, you can’t output component and composite at the same time via the K-Box. What I would recommend is the Io LA box which is the Analog Only version of the Io. The beauty of it is that it’s an external box so if you have multiple editing stations, you can move the Io to whichever station needs the Analog I/O at that moment. I haven’t needed the LA yet because I own a Sony J3/902 Multiformat Beta Player which plays back all the flavors of Beta via SDI, so even my BetaSP gets digitized via SDI.

On the PVM monitor option, those are simply loop-through’s so you can’t input a component signal and then see that same signal via Composite. The monitor spits out the same signal that goes in.

Good luck on the purchase!

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
https://www.biscardicreative.com

Now in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com

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[Joey Korenman]

Thanks all! It looks like the solution might be to get the AJA IO (full version) so we can just use it as a converter for now. If I run one of the SDI-outpuuts from the Kona to the input of the IO, i can then get composite, s-video, and component out to whereever I need. I can also convert analog sources to SDI. Sounds like it should work, and in the future we could move the IO to another system if we want. For now it’ll just be an A/D converter.

Walter, you’re definitely rigth about the PVM monitor. It’s crazy how many different variables you have to deal with just switching capture cards!!! Our rack and everything are all configured for the Cinewave, so we’re basically trying to avoid re-wiring the rack at all costs.

Are there any other products that can accomplish the same thing as the IO, with the same ins and outs, that cost any less? I’m just asking because my boss will ask me this tomorrow, so if the answer is “just buy the IO, it’s worth it” then let me know.

Thanks again for all the help!

joey

[Walter Biscardi]

[Joey Korenman] “Are there any other products that can accomplish the same thing as the IO, with the same ins and outs, that cost any less? I’m just asking because my boss will ask me this tomorrow, so if the answer is “just buy the IO, it’s worth it” then let me know. “

I know Laird makes the Inertia, but if you know you want to add the Kona 2 at some point, you’re best off going with the Io because they’re completely compatible with each other.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
https://www.biscardicreative.com

Now in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com

“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

[Joey Korenman]

Alright, we’re going with the Kona 2 AND the IO. The IO will just act as an A/D converter for now, and if we wanted to we could move it to another system later on.

Thanks for all the help guys! If any of you want to buy a cheap CineWave card with analag and pro digital BoB’s, lemme know. I’ll definitely be back if I have questions once the thing gets here.

joey

[Steve Covello]

We use a converter box in the K2’s secondary SDI pathway to get CV out:

https://www.lcdracks.com/

This is the Marshall Electronics website. Goto the Video Converters menu and select BC-0301-10. There is a 10-bit model, and 8-bit model. Right now, sans K-box, the pathways are as follows: