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  • KiPro Mini rec trigger and continuous record

    Posted by Richard Boghosian on March 18, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    So the KiPro mini will remote trigger by the presence of TC in the SDI input signal, but will not read the SDI trigger info sent by many cameras, including the Sony F-3. Translation, in order to use the KiPro mini, you MUST have an SxS card in the camera in order to start/stop the KiPro remotely.

    Also, I can’t find in the manual-or in the menus, how do you enable a roll-over recording from card slot A to B to allow continuous recording.

    Richard Boghosian
    Bogh AV Productions

    FCP 7.03 MacPro 8Gb ram Matrox MXO 2 Max

    Mark Cc knobil replied 15 years, 2 months ago 11 Members · 19 Replies
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  • Gary Adcock

    March 18, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    [Richard Boghosian] “but will not read the SDI trigger info sent by many cameras, including the Sony F-3”

    FIrst
    the start stop pulse in the F3 is NOT active by default, it must be turned on.

    ” in order to use the KiPro mini, you MUST have an SxS card in the camera in order to start/stop the KiPro remotely.”

    Correct
    that is the same functionality as Arri’s Alexa and many other cameras, I do not understand the nature of your complaints.

    gary adcock
    Studio37

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  • Will Salley

    March 18, 2011 at 3:16 pm

    [gary adcock] ” I do not understand the nature of your complaints.”

    I do, He wants functionality that SHOULD be there, but is not.

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  • Richard Boghosian

    March 18, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    Thanks Will. And Gary, it’s not a complaint, it’s just an observation-that some others might like to be aware of before they assume that such features are included in the initial firmware release. I’m sure AJA will catch up at some point.

    Richard Boghosian
    Bogh AV Productions

    FCP 7.03 MacPro 8Gb ram Matrox MXO 2 Max

  • Aja Sales department

    March 18, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    Detailed information regarding Ki Pro Mini features and operation can be obtained from the product’s operation manual. This document is freely available from the AJA website at:
    https://www.aja.com/pdf/support/AJA_Ki_Pro_Mini_Manual.pdf

    Both of the features mentioned in this thread are not promised features of the device. These feature requests will be passed on to product management for development consideration. Thank you for your feedback.

    If you have questions that you feel are not answered by the operational manual for the product, don’t hesitate to contact AJA directly via phone or email.


    AJA Video Systems
    +1 (530) 274-2048 Intl.
    (800) 251-4224 US
    sales@aja.com

  • John Heagy

    March 19, 2011 at 12:57 am

    While we’re in the feature request mode: Please enable the Lanc port on both the KiPro and Mini and include record start/stop input and output so third party start/stop remotes with feedback can be devised.

    Ideally a Lanc start/stop would take a signal from the camera’s on board start/stop and convert it to Lanc protocol to start the KiPro. The KiPro would send record status back and light an LED that could be mounted on the camera eye piece. Considering camera men don’t have eyes in the back of there heads this seems a near necessity for doubt free operation.

    Thanks
    John Heagy

  • Gary Adcock

    March 19, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    [Will Salley] “[gary adcock] ” I do not understand the nature of your complaints.”
    I do, He wants functionality that SHOULD be there, but is not.”

    What functionality that is not there? That you cannot trigger a start stop without media in the F3 camera? Name me a camera that has internal recording that does not require media inserted to function correctly, and that is the case with any of the Sony Tapeless cameras in the EX and XDCam lines that I can think of.

    I think it seems you are confusing the KiPros ability as waning instead of functionality of the camera itself, but those are 2 distinctly different things.

    gary adcock
    Studio37

    Post and Production Workflow Consultant
    Production and Post Stereographer
    Chicago, IL

    https://blogs.creativecow.net/24640

  • Ron Pestes

    March 20, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Also, you will not be getting the option of spanning cards because the mini has to close a file before it can start recording to the second card. That means you will have to always manually change the slot before you can record to the second card.

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  • Darren Abate

    March 23, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    So… (I’m sorry if this sounds dumb, but) If the KPM has to close the file before you can switch card slots, what’s the point of having two card slots anyway?

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  • Ron Pestes

    March 24, 2011 at 12:22 am

    It does make it a little faster to change cards if you just have to press stop, switch slots and press play again. Still, it would be much better if it would span.

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  • Darren Abate

    March 24, 2011 at 1:55 am

    Heck, I could even do without spanning if the unit could automatically rollover to the next card while closing the file on the first.

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