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  • Keyed green screen appears during Cross Dissolve…

    Posted by Matthew Abourezk on December 13, 2007 at 5:49 pm

    Hi all, the subject tells the story.

    I am doing cross dissolves of a person we videotaped in front of a green screen.

    The keying was effortless and the results look good, but about 40% of the time when I do a dissolve or a cross dissolve of the keyed woman, I see a ghost image of the green screen during the transition.

    Any thoughts or pointers on this one?

    Thanks a bunch,
    Matt

    Talkingbox Digital Media Group, Inc.
    http://www.talkingboxdmg.com
    (203) 327-6617

    Jeremy Garchow replied 13 years, 7 months ago 8 Members · 13 Replies
  • 13 Replies
  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 13, 2007 at 6:05 pm

    More info. How’d you do the key?

  • Matthew Abourezk

    December 13, 2007 at 6:13 pm

    I used the “Blue and Green” key effect.

    I tried the other key tools but had the most luck with this one.

    Talkingbox Digital Media Group, Inc.
    http://www.talkingboxdmg.com
    (203) 327-6617

  • Tom Matthies

    December 13, 2007 at 6:16 pm

    Is the effect rendered?
    Tom

  • Matthew Abourezk

    December 13, 2007 at 6:50 pm

    Hi Tom,

    Not sure what you mean in asking if the effect is rendered.

    When I have the clips stacked in the timeline, I render all, and play back. When playing back I see a ghost-image of the green screen appear during a cross dissolve transition.

    Talkingbox Digital Media Group, Inc.
    http://www.talkingboxdmg.com
    (203) 327-6617

  • Scott Robinson

    December 13, 2007 at 7:49 pm

    What version of Final Cut are you using? One of my students was seeing the same thing in FCP 4.5 using the same or the Chroma Key filter. I gave him some workarounds but that doesn’t answer the obvious question as to why it is doing that. Interested in hearing replies of others that experienced the same thing.

    Scott Robinson
    President
    Take 2 Productions, Inc.
    https://www.take2productionsinc.com

  • Matthew Abourezk

    December 13, 2007 at 7:51 pm

    Hi Scott,
    I am using FCP 6.0.1

    Talkingbox Digital Media Group, Inc.
    http://www.talkingboxdmg.com
    (203) 327-6617

  • John Pale

    December 13, 2007 at 7:58 pm

    Make sure all options, including the light and dark green ones, are selecting in your render menu.

    if you have some odd combination of rendered and realtime effects you can get stuff like this.

    if all else fails, select all the clips, toggle their visibility off and on to delete the render files…then try rendering again.

  • Neil Ryan

    December 14, 2007 at 3:56 am

    “I am doing cross dissolves of a person we videotaped in front of a green screen.”

    What is happening on your background layer during this transisition?

    I Find it best to do 1 of 2 things, depending on the composite:
    If the backround stays the same during the FG transition, then put the 2 FG clips on separate layers and either use dissolves to fade one out as the other fades in, or adjust the Clips’ Opacity with keyframes.
    If the background changes during the transition, make up two SEQs, one with one composite, one with the other; cut the two SEQs into your master SEQ and dissolve between them

    Cheers,
    Neil.

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    Neil Ryan
    Post Production
    The Pod Multimedia
    http://www.the-pod.com.au
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  • Lee Berger

    December 14, 2007 at 10:24 am

    I’ve had the same problem. I solved it by turning on shadow in the Motion tab. My project required a shadow behind the keyed subject, and I noticed the problem when I forgot to add shadow to a sequence. If you don’t want the shadow to appear try setting the x and y at zero or the opacity at zero.

    Lee Berger
    http://www.leebergermedia.com

  • Denez Mcadoo

    August 29, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    I know this is an old thread, but I’m having this problem and have yet to find a good answer.

    No one has really touched on it, but I think I know what is causing the problem (at least in my case).

    As the opacity drops during the cross dissolve (or simple opacity drop), the key is calculating on the currently darker luminance range, the results change, and a different relationship between the two layers occurs.

    I need a fix to this. My problem is that I do secondary color correction in FCP by duplicating the layer, keying out their face, and adjusting the lower layer. Cross dissolves result in the top layer fading in at a different rate then the bottom layer, and faces are visibly darker during this.

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