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  • key matte box – move video underneath? (“animated crop” / travelling matte)

    Posted by Tad Newberry on June 15, 2014 at 4:11 am

    i hope i can explain this right. in FCP there was a plugin from Digital Heaven called, “DH Box”. with it you could apply it to a clip, size it up on the timeline, the move the video within the box, the borders would all stay in the same place, but you could scoot the video around underneath so it would basically be like animating the cropped edges, though the frame size, location and aspect ratio would remain consistent. it was a great way to add two video clips on the same screen (for simultaneous action from 2 cameras) and “crop” each one as desired. it worked great, and fairly painlessly.

    in PP CC, i’ve tried several methods of travelling mattes, etc. but the closest i get is a matted video, but the whole box moves when i move the video.

    if that makes sense to anyone and they have a solution, i’m all ears!

    thanks.

    thanks for helping out a bonehead!
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    Tad Newberry replied 8 years, 10 months ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Ivan Myles

    June 15, 2014 at 8:04 am

    Create a second sequence to animate the clip, and embed the sequence in the main timeline.

  • Ann Bens

    June 15, 2014 at 12:04 pm

    The travelling matte is broken.
    Nest the video and animate in the nest.
    Add the matte effect to the nested clip in the main timeline.

    Instead of nesting you can use the transform effect to animate
    Postition and anchor point values need to be the same.

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  • Tim Kolb

    June 15, 2014 at 12:38 pm

    The track matte is designed to work this way… A matte that “tracks” the movement of its source clip. Many people don’t get the intent of the design until I show them 6 clips that all need to be matted in the same shape, all 6 clips can use the same matte and be positioned individually on the screen…because the matte “tracks” the clip position in each case.

    You can use the transform effect to “slide” the video around in the matte, but as Ann notes, the anchor point and position values both need to be animated together, or the “slide” of the video will be accompanied by a proportional offset in the matte position. Also, you need to position the transform effect ON TOP of the track matte effect in the effects list (in the Effect Controls panel) to make it work.

    I think most of us who have used Premiere Pro for a while just nest the video clip in its own sequence and do the motion there, assigning the track matte to the nested sequence.

    TimK,
    Director, Consultant
    Kolb Productions,

    Adobe Certified Instructor

  • Ann Bens

    June 16, 2014 at 8:33 am

    I cannot remember which version but there was a time where you could move the clip in the timeline without dragging the mask with it.

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  • Tim Kolb

    June 16, 2014 at 12:29 pm

    [Ann Bens] “…there was a time where you could move the clip in the timeline without dragging the mask with it.”

    Yes, but I can’t remember what version that would have been either. It seems to me that this method came around the time of multiple sequences/settings in one project.

    If you really consider what a ‘track’ matte should do vs a ‘traveling’ matte (usually extracted from foreground footage) vs just a plain ‘matte’…it sort of makes sense the way it’s set up even though this method isn’t the way all manufacturers approach it.

    TimK,
    Director, Consultant
    Kolb Productions,

    Adobe Certified Instructor

  • Tim Kolb

    June 23, 2014 at 5:28 pm

    Returning to this thread for one last item…

    If the track matte needs to stay in position with the background while the key fill moves inside it, you can also assign the track matte to the background layer and reverse it, creating a “hole”…and lace the key fill on a lower layer and manipulate it (in this case the key fill layer needs no key effect).

    TimK,
    Director, Consultant
    Kolb Productions,

    Adobe Certified Instructor

  • Tad Newberry

    July 10, 2017 at 8:55 pm

    Hey,

    Just letting you know i revisited this problem again today and saw your post again with the simple solution. It works great and does exactly what i need it to do. Thanks again!

    thanks for helping out a bonehead!
    __________________________

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    3.33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon Mac Pro
    24GB RAM
    ATI Radeon HD 5870
    …and a few TeraBytes o’ storage
    (then it’s on to PetaBytes, ExaBytes and MosquitoBytes!)

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