Jony Ives and the next FCPX GUI

[Bret Williams]

FWIW, any music clip I place in a timeline instantly gets secondary status. I know I’m going to edit it, cut it up, etc. So making it a secondary makes that function as it should. In fact, it contains it, so if I want to move the whole audio clip as a whole left or right or up or down, I don’t have to marquee all the little parts, like in legacy.

Lately I’ve also started grouping other elements this way. Put all my sfx in a secondary. Instant organization like a track. Just have to remember to use the P tool to move stuff around within.

[Charlie Austin]

[Bret Williams] “Lately I’ve also started grouping other elements this way. Put all my sfx in a secondary. Instant organization like a track. Just have to remember to use the P tool to move stuff around within.”

I’ve been doing that as well, and works pretty well… Now if the (mx, fx, dia) Roles would just stop trying to run home to the primary if I didn’t want them to… 🙂 Maybe rather than Role Grouping, you could have the timeline separated into visual, expandable vertical “workspaces” FCP wouldn’t have to figure out how to group things, you could just put clips in your user defined spaces and they stay there unless specifically pulled out. Maybe time for another email… 🙂

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~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Charlie Austin] “All due respect Bill, I work in X like its X, and it needs better timeline visual organization. If you’ve got 10 audio clips stacked in a timeline, not a biggie maybe. It’s an issue when you’ve got dozens.”

I really want what we called Zones (color coded, too).

It’d also be nice to be able to drag audio Roles in the timeline index up and down, and have the clips arrange themselves that way. It would also help for export to assign the Roles to particular channel orders.

At any rate, there’s lots that can be done here, it’s just a matter of time and interest if Apple does it.

Jeremy

[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Bill Davis] “What a novel approach. Instead of telling the creator of something that their work is total trash and the digital version of the spawn of the devil – you engage in constructive give and take – acknowledging the value and working on resolving what you see as less than ideal about their approach.
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possibly the trick is that you do the pair in sequence – intense vocal customer dissatisfaction can be half effective in setting the parameters for future constructive discussion?

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Andy Lewis]

Before FCPX came out I remember looking at FCP7 and thinking “I hope they don’t turn clips into streamlined, shiny objects or anything… but I bet they will.”

I really like the flat simplicity of Premiere. A clip should look like the platonic idea of a clip. It’s only information, to represent it as an object is unhelpful. Maybe if it looked like piano roll – that’s at least providing a real world analogue.

If Ive has any influence on FCPX, maybe it will be getting rid of some of that pointless real-world tinsel.

[Aindreas Gallagher]

arrrg.

oh that’s bad – mind you – the man’s first name isn’t exactly Jony either. It was Jonathan in apple PR for quite a while?
I still kind of remember the first time Jobs was all – “hey Jony” at the apple event.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[John Davidson]

I’ve been using the developer seed of iOS7 all day today too and I also like it. Much easier on the eyes and now every non-apple app looks dated.
I’d love to see what would happen if it trickled to the pro apps, but I’ve always been an advocate of FCPX becoming MORE apple-ish. I want things like colored roles and volume control in the media browser, etc.

If yesterday was any indication, I think we have lots of improvements to look forward to across the line of pro apps.

John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.

[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Bret Williams] “If we had (green) audio tracks, AND audio was also still embedded in (blue) video clips, which would control export? Do tracks get mapped to tracks or roles? Do the roles get mapped to tracks? Are tracks roles or are they tracks? It could get pretty messy pretty quick.
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apple would have to be super careful not to tip it over alright. But given the more complex audio OMF FCPX exports are ok as it stands now (right? I haven’t a clue) – the primary issue is the workspace?

PPro is working audio lozenges anyway – from this week I can say that soho mix 5.1 or vanilla stereo is equally a lozenge in ppro – you are expanding audio in pretty similar fashion to X in PPro 6 right now – but it still has a centre line VA split. not all audio tracks are equal tho. If you drag in a 5.1 mix – it can only go to a new 5.1 track – which you twirl down to modify the sub-channels of. Any PPro audio “track” contains anything from a stereo pair to all parts of a 5.1 mix. PPro is not not FCP religiously discreet audio tracks.

but there are lanes.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Jeremy Garchow]

I am curious what OS level tagging can do for fcpx.

[Oliver Peters]

It’s interesting to see that Sir Jony has decided to “Metro-ize” the software. Kind of ironic that the “tube” is quite the opposite 😉 I like both approaches, though.

– Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com