It’s simple ..

[Ts O’grady]

Thanks. There hasn’t been enough FUD on this forum today.

[Sohrab Sandhu]

[TS O'Grady] “Thanks. There hasn’t been enough FUD on this forum today.”

Seriously Dude! What do you expect people to say?

You may be an eternal optimist but at some point reality is gonna catch up with you.

Sohrab

2.66 GHz 8-core, ATI Radeon HD 4870,
FCS 3, AJA Kona Lhi

“The creative person wants to be a know-it-all. He wants to know about all kinds of things: ancient history, nineteenth-century mathematics, current manufacturing techniques, flower arranging, and hog futures. Because he never knows when these ideas might come together to form a new idea. It may happen six minutes later or six months, or six years down the road. But he has faith that it will happen.” — Carl Ally

[Walter Soyka]

[TS O'Grady] “There hasn’t been enough FUD on this forum today.”

This isn’t your garden-variety FUD, though. Apple has created their own FUD by releasing this puzzling upgrade that alienates many, many current FCP users — and then staying silent about the missing pieces.

Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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[Clay Couch]

People do not like change, this is obvious. I for one embrace change, were it not for change we would still be making a 4 day trip on a horse into town. There is a reason HDSLR filming has exploded onto the scene. Everyone had 10 grand in lenses laying about when all of a sudden HD was put on the SLR. It was a match made in heaven. In the hands of a pro, it is very good video. Everything is going digital, haven’t you seen red’s list of movie credits? That being said, I do not understand why Apple would force everyone to change over to an entirely different workflow. I still believe changes will be coming soon, or should I say additions. Corporations do some really strange stuff sometimes.

I have read many scathing reviews of a software that has been out for less than 24 hours. There is no way these people have had the time to gain enough knowledge about the product to even attempt to make a worthwhile assessment. Sure you can say well this particular thing is different in FC7. That still doesn’t mean they didn’t address it, maybe you just haven’t figured it out yet. I am not speaking to all of the issues that have been mentioned, just some of the more reactionary rants that have been put out there.

Apple didn’t become the mainstay in professional editing by accident you know? People get caught up in this idea that all they care about is Igadgets. Apple is a very large company and has different divisions you know? I am certain FCP X software coders were not in there going “you know, screw making this work for old FCP users, lets get it to work on Iphone 5 hardware for fun”. If the division doesn’t perform well they have the corporation to answer too. They have probably made a lot of money today, but it won’t last on hype alone. There has to be continued support or else it will fail. I look at their track record over the last 13 years or so and If I was you, I wouldn’t bet against them.

Would you have been happier if they charged you 500 dollars just to give you the puppet tool? I personally hate new updates that charge a thousand dollars just to give you a new loading screen and an update or maybe 2, when most of the time they are bug fixes and not true updates.

In six months, if they have not addressed your concerns I will gladly eat my own words. Betting against a proven winner with bottomless pockets that are lined with platinum is not something I am willing to do. Just remember if Apple was concerned about grandma being able to make birthday movies as someone said in another post, they could have easily made final cut pro express X for $99.99.

Some of you are showing your age 🙂 Don’t you realize the older you get the more you resist change. Can’t teach an old dog new tricks is what I have always heard. They made your job in many aspects a lot easier and you don’t like it. Its much easier to find a reason something doesn’t work, or won’t work than it is to roll up your sleeves and find a way to get it done.

My 2 cents.

[Scott Sheriff]

[Declan Smith] “(please note the 7D in my signature doesn’t mean I frequent coffee shops with my macbook pro 🙂 )”

LOL

Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.com

I have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
You should be suitably impressed…

“If you think it’s expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur.” —Red Adair

[Misha Aranyshev]

[Buddy Couch] “Apple didn’t become the mainstay in professional editing by accident you know?”

It did. FCP was bought by Apple to spite Avid which said around that time that Mac is dead and they are not going to develop anything for this platform any more. It happened FCP interface made more sense for people than the rest of the NLE apps. It was simply less confusing. And QuickTime despite all the crap people say about it was the solid foundation that let FCP to drag about for ten years.

[Scott Sheriff]

[Buddy Couch] “Some of you are showing your age 🙂 Don’t you realize the older you get the more you resist change. Can’t teach an old dog new tricks is what I have always heard.”

So how long you been an editor?
Obviously a long time. Because with the vast wealth of knowledge and vast professional experience you’ve gained over the years you thought it was a good idea to put this in one of your first posts?
I’m not even going to talk about that pollyanna attitude regarding Apple.
Please do regale us with more of your wisdom.

Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.com

I have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
You should be suitably impressed…

“If you think it’s expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur.” —Red Adair

[Dom Silverio]

[Michael Aranyshev] ”
It did. FCP was bought by Apple to spite Avid which said around that time that Mac is dead and they are not going to develop anything for this platform any more. It happened FCP interface made more sense for people than the rest of the NLE apps. It was simply less confusing. And QuickTime despite all the crap people say about it was the solid foundation that let FCP to drag about for ten years.”

Actually, Avid began developing for the PC platform because Apple decided that 3 PCI slots will be the future of Macs, 3rd party developers be damned. Avid, unfortunately, needed 4 or more PCI slots. That was the real reason Avid developed the PC platform.

[Declan Smith]

You’re right on a few things and made assumptions on others.

1. People do like change if change is for good reason, this is something you learn with age. Most FCP users wanted FCP to change so that it actually uses all the cores in the Apple hardware and perhaps addresses all the RAM for example. Alot of people were looking forward to change, but it lacking in certain key features means they can’t.

2. HD in an SLR is not a match made in heaven. It has it’s uses and it has it’s limitations, it can look nice, but it’s not exactly the main stay of the video / film industry.

3. Apple have to be one of the worst at releasing featureless updates. FCS2 -3 comes to mind. Another thing that age tells you is to under promise and over deliver, something that Apple appears to have transposed.

4. Who knows how Apple think. Personally, I would have thought that hooking your existing user base would have been an honourable aim. When you lose a customer, you lose them for a long time. I wouldn’t dream of treating a customer with such contempt.

5. You don’t know my age, you don’t know my job. But I am old enough to have respect for people that have made this their living and as far as ‘making the job easier’, I don’t see how any software has made the craft and decision making of editing any easier. Professional editors don’t just press buttons, they edit. I am not a professional editor, but I have seen them at work, and it’s a creative process, one that requires certain mundane things (like instructing the computer what to do) to happen and not get in the way. People will invest the time to ‘learn new tricks’ as you put it, given that there is sufficient justification to do so. Giving us a new car that is painted with shiny iridescent paint, has an awesome sound system, but you can’t change gear and it always turns left might be revolutionary, but is not ready to help us travel to where we want to be until these issues are resolved.

Declan Smith
https://www.madpanic.tv
FCS3 / After Effects CS5 / Combustion / Canon 7D / Canon XL2

[David Burch]

It isn’t the new features that’s the problem, or the concept of change. It’s the lack of old features that are absolutely essential to many pro workflows. Imagine you owned a kayak and were forced to “upgrade” to a new model that was very streamlined and much more maneuverable but didn’t come with a paddle. You can’t just say “Paddles are old, moving with my hands is a change I welcome!”. Change is good as long as it is in the right direction. With FCPX, many of us feel like we were just set back 10 years.