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It’s been a little while since I have setup a brand new machine
Posted by Jeremy Garchow on December 21, 2013 at 3:34 amSure, I have done reinstalls and updates over the last several years, but this is the first time setting up a brand spanking new machine with the newest “Apple ecosystem” and “next generation” hardware.
It truly is an ecosystem. I am sure I’ll be called a fanboi, but Apple has done a really nice job. I have to give them a lot of credit.
I had everything setup in about an hour, including all the updates and ancillary material, emails, contacts, apps, and even had a bonus wireless second monitor while doing so with the AppleTV extended monitor function.
This, of course, does not include iTunes/Pictures/Etc.
I am talking about getting a working editing system up and running, and being able to check emails, and contact people. Basically, I am able to get to work.
And there’s this, which is a laptop boot drive:
It’s been a long wait for the next step.
I think we may be OK here.
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Charlie Austin
December 21, 2013 at 4:29 am[Jeremy Garchow] “I think we may be OK here.”
Premiere is gonna rock on that machine dude!
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Bob Zelin
December 21, 2013 at 4:32 amwhat you have learned is that doing a CLEAN INSTALL is wonderful.
What you should have done (and what you should still do ) is get a cheap USB drive, and clone your entire boot drive. This way, 3 years from now, when it takes 10 minutes for your project to open, you can just backup your data, and REFORMAT your boot drive, and boot up off your clone, and have your computer work just as good as it does RIGHT NOW, without having to say “but how am I going to get all this software and plug ins back onto my computer”. After several years of screwing around with your computer, it inevidably will start to run slow, and it’s EASY to make it run again, just like it does right now – simply by blowing away everything, and starting from scratch, which is very easily done by creating a clone drive, with what you have on the computer right now. This way – 3 – 4 years from now, it will run just as fast as you remember it when you first got your computer, and because you have the clone, it will be no big deal to do this re-install.But will you do this ? ……………………….
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Gary Huff
December 21, 2013 at 5:02 amThe problem is that so many people bought into the “conventional wisdom” that only Windows requires this and OSX is bulletproof and never slows down.
Which is not at all the case.
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Jeremy Garchow
December 21, 2013 at 5:30 amBut it’s not really about the clones. I have clones. It takes hours and hours to clone, and then you have to reinstall anything that didn’t make it.
Plus, I can’t really clone my systems anymore due to SAN configurations. I mean I could, but it’s not the best way to go about it. Clean installs are the best way.
This happened because with several simple passwords and a reasonably fast connection, I can download and install an decent edit and communcation system on a computer that came off the FedEx truck from China an hour ago.
Creative Cloud helped with this, too.
Add a relevant IP address, some SAN software, Join the SAN, restart, and away we go.
The 900MB/sec boot drive and an AirPlay 50″ monitor are bonuses.
I didn’t need a upgrade hexadecimal key from three years ago, and then a full version key from five years ago, and six install disks.
In one hour, I was able to setup and start editing with no extra cables, discs, software, or hassle.
I have reinstalled plenty of systems from scratch, but this, by far, was the fastest, easiest, and painless process from unbox to edit.
I could clone this disk, but I can even do a clean install from this computer without anything else but the built in recovery disk.
Can’t wait to do this again, for the MacPros when they finally arrive next summer, or whenever the back stock is cleared.
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Jeremy Garchow
December 21, 2013 at 5:59 am[Charlie Austin] “Premiere is gonna rock on that machine dude!”
I hope everything rocks on it, at least as much as a laptop can rock.
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Charlie Austin
December 21, 2013 at 6:17 am[Jeremy Garchow] “I hope everything rocks on it, at least as much as a laptop can rock.”
It will. 🙂 Our GFX guy has been running Ps, Pr and AE CC, C4D, Lightroom, and 3 monitors off his, and it’s a year old. Great machines. He’s really looking forward to the tube though. The MBP does get a little … clogged up sometimes. 🙂
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Phil Hoppes
December 21, 2013 at 12:12 pmOSX or Windows, I eventually end up doing a clean install about once every 18 months. They all get bit rot. I do a CCC of my OSX machines when I make them new again but that is more for a quick insurance policy. As time marches on and I use a machine I add software, delete software, change configurations so that inevitably to do a clean restore from where I was 18 months ago takes just about as long as it takes me to just do a clean install period. I opt for the clean install every time for, as I mentioned, in the period of time between installs I’ve modified my workflow, added new things, found that in the past 18 months stuff was incompatible and now with a clean install I can correct things, yada, yada, yada…..
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Bret Williams
December 21, 2013 at 2:19 pmBut what about the 3 years of OS and App updates? That clone would be completely irrelevant after 18 months. After cloning back, then updating all the apps and reinstalling plugins it would be just as fragmented as before.
Jeremy’s point is a good one. Having swapped out my iMac a few times in the last couple years, and gotten us a laptop, it’s amazing. I simply put in my AppleID and my AdobeID and I can hit the redownload button and walk away and everything is the latest greatest version, without running a bunch of updates or using discs or inputting serial numbers. And for me, I keep iPhoto’s on an external and have music match so my iTunes library is just there for the streaming. And now, Adobe even syncs your preferences, so even that doesn’t need tweaking. Even my safari bookmarks are automatic. It’s all the little extra apps that are the nuisance. The little ones you need that require serial numbers and aren’t downloadable from the App Store like fetch for example.
If you’re talking about keeping an up to date clone as an emergency boot, then that might be something completely different.
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