Issues with merged clips in CS 5.5

[Tom Frisch]

I’m guessing that any time you have a stereo set to mono, rather than separated into mono tracks, you’ll run into this problem. Probably will have to replace all the audio with properly separated mono clips.

-Tom

[Cyrus Dowlatshahi]

Yeah it just crashed again.

Apologies but I’m not understanding what the “proper” way to separate mono tracks is.

[Tom Frisch]

The proper way is listed higher up in this thread..

“…Clip > Audio Options > Breakout to Mono to separate the stereo track instead of the Modify > Audio Channels > Mono Track Format, and it’s not killing the audio for the merged clips after saving and restarting premiere.”

[Cyrus Dowlatshahi]

So basically this is just a workaround that we know happens to work?

My merged clips are created from what my h4n creates in 4-channel mode: two stereo .wav files. My Premiere Audio preferences are set to ‘Default track format: Mono.’

So the fix to this problem is to further break apart those audio files (within the bins) to create ‘left’ and ‘right’ quasi-subclips and merged THOSE with the video?

[Tom Frisch]

I think so. It worked for me yesterday w/ stereo files off my zoom.
I think the default to mono is the problem- it doesn’t properly split them to 2 mono files.

[Cyrus Dowlatshahi]

I wonder if there’s a way to export an “offline” version of the sequence (or the XML) and then reimport using my freshly-minted fully-four-channel merged clips?

[Tom Frisch]

Let us know if you get that to work. For me it was better just to dig in and fix what I had. Now the project is done, and I won’t make that mistake again.

-Tom

[Cyrus Dowlatshahi]

Yeah sadly both EDLs and XML are not working properly. I exported to FCP, opened an EDL back in Premiere… the audio in question (the track that was dead in my merged clip) never made it over.

So yeah I don’t know what the problem is. But basically the plan moving forward is to manually separate out each track of audio before merging a clip.

[Andrew Gingerich]

Fascinating that Adobe still hasn’t addressed this bug. I managed to get an entire feature sync’d before I discovered this issue, so now I have to go back and do it again. Feeling a little bit like I’m Charlie Brown and Lucy just yanked the football away from me.

Just to clarify the workflow for this workaround so I don’t have to sync this movie more than twice, is this the way that works?

1. Set the clap frame as the in point for the video and audio clips.
2. Select the audio clip and breakout to mono.
3. This produces a separate clip for each audio track (helpfully all named exactly the same thing so there’s no way to tell them apart) that I can then merge with the video clip, producing a merged clip that has 4+ mono tracks that won’t magically disappear when I close and reopen the project.
4. Repeat 600 times.

This is seriously the simplest way to include multi-mono recordings in a merged clip?

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Andrew Gingerich
Filmmaker

http://www.EXGfilms.com

[Cyrus Dowlatshahi]

Anybody know if this bug is fixed in CS6? The breakout-to-mono workaround is adding tons of time to my post workflow at the end of every damn day…