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Issues with FCP6
Hey, guys
I’m playing with FCP6 to see how it perfoms on two different machines, an Intel MacPro dual-core with 4 gigs of ram and a 2.0 gig dual proc with 2 gigs of ram. When I put different resolutions on the time line I am not getting the dream come true work flow as Apple has promised. The biggest problem comes when I put an H264 clip in the timeline. The video has an orange stipe on it and the audio is solid red. This seems odd since it’s an apple codec. It happens on both computers. Interestingly, when it asked if I want to match the clip and sequence and say no I get the above orange and Red. But, if I tell it to conform I get Red on both video and audio. I tried to render out some of the audio and it was taking about an hour to do a one minute piece of audio on the MacPro. The only thing I’m doing that I know is bad is using the OS drive for storage. But, would it make that much difference?
Does anyone else see the new FCP acting just like the old FCP? So far I’m not impressed. Of course there’s lots of testing to do, but…
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And another wierd thing. That same H264 will play fairly well in the viewer. And the timeline is set to the same settings as the viewer. Now how weird is that.
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H264 is not an editing codec nor is it an Apple codec. It is open source that is wrapped in QT. Just not made to work in a timeline.
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MP3 audio, highly compressed, does not work well in Final Cut.
Similarly, H.264, highly compressed video, also does not work well in Final Cut. It was designed for high quality at lower bit rates for use over the internet, and for DVD and some broadcast.
Try some high quality video transcoded to ProRes422, and you’ll see a very good picture at about a gigabyte per minute.
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Try some SD, DV, and HD would be more along the lines of what Apple is thinking. H.264, like mpeg, isn’t an editing format.
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I agree with all of these guys…
I’m applogize for this but I can’t let this one go…
In order to use a program like FCS2, you need to know the business of television and editing. You just can’t purchase a program and some hardware, quit your job at Wal-Mart and call yourself an editor/producer. It takes real knowledge of what is what. Get to know the codecs and workflow before trying something like, “I can’t get H.264 to work in my timeline”.
Oh Please…
Do yourself a favor, pick up a book on codecs and editing, study it well and put it to use.
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Point well taken Wayne. Can you tell me what book will tell me what is an editing codec and what isn’t?
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Wayne – No offense intended, but I think that response might little harsh. There’s hardly any question on the Cow that couldn’t be answered some other way, through reading a manual, help file, by calling the company who makes the product, or by persistant trial-and-error testing. People post to the Cow because they are hoping for a quick, accurate response from knowledgeable people, which is exactly what jbrad2 got. I think your assumption regarding his video experience comes off a little holier-than-thou, if not mean-spirited. Again, no offense intended, I read this forum a lot, and I know you are a frequent & knowledgable contributor, I just think in this case you should lighten up a bit on the guy. (or girl). His question was valid, and by no means basic.
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[Bret Williams] “H.264, like mpeg, isn’t an editing format.”
whats kinda funny about that is that HDCAM-SR is a very mildly compressed derivative of H.264 and XDCAM is mpeg based as well.
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I used compressor to change the H264 to ProRes422 then dropped it into the timeline. If I changed the sequence to match the clip the video was perfect but the audio needed rendering. If I left the sequence the way it was the video was orange and the audio was still red. I know I’m working backwards here but that’s what is fun about experimenting. I’m going to hook up an XDCAM deck and see what that import looks like along with some DV footage I will ingest.
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Read this primer on how FCP open timelines work. You will notice that it works with RT enables codecs for use specifically with Final Cut Pro’s RT engine.
To think that Open Timeline means any codec, or clip on earth is just asking a bit much.
https://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/fcp_6_first_look_martin.html
David
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