Isn’t there some way to create a subclip?

[Andy Neil]

Creating favorites is analogous to creating subclips. When you sort by favorites, all you see are the segments defined as a favorite.

Andy

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[Matthew Celia]

The best way I’ve found to create a subclip is to either

1) mark as favorite

2) assign a keyword to the section

Both workflows have been faster for me. The assign a keyword to a section method is what Apple recommends in their white paper as replacing the traditional subclips.

A big advantage to these keyword subclips is that you aren’t forced into the boundries of the clip, you can extend it if you want – which is cool.

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[Oliver Peters]

[Andy Neil] “Creating favorites is analogous to creating subclips.”

However, FCP 7 subclips could be dragged into various bins as needed. When you do that with Favorites in FCP X, it drags the entire clip with it. So you can’t create 10 Favorites for a clip and place each into a different bin as you could with subclips in FCP 7.

Oliver

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[Andy Neil]

True. For that you’d have to create a keyword instead as mathew suggested.

Andy

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[Jeremy Garchow]

[Oliver Peters] “However, FCP 7 subclips could be dragged into various bins as needed. When you do that with Favorites in FCP X, it drags the entire clip with it. So you can’t create 10 Favorites for a clip and place each into a different bin as you could with subclips in FCP 7.”

Correct me if I’m wrong, but you can sort the event by favorites (control-f) essentially creating little clips of the main clip and then you can keyword those little clips. In that new keyword collection, it shows just the range you selected, just like subclips. Here’s some pictures:

First, select favorites (notice the green highlights):

The sort the browser by favorites (control-f) which breaks every favorite range in to it’s own separate clips:

Then put the clips in film strip view (command-option-1):

Add a keyword (command-k):

Then in that collection, you have your keyworded, ranged, favorited parts of the longer clip:

Does that help?

Jeremy

[Bud Kuenzli]

I say “NONSENSE” to all the commentary about using Favorites. FCPX doesn’t do subclips. All you can do is label a section of clip. That isn’t a subclip. You can’t separate it and set it in the event browser and treat it like a clip without going through serious contortions. You can make a compound clip but you can only set it aside in some other project or you -could- take that Favorite, set it in a timeline, export it as a quicktime movie, and then import it and Voila! You then have a real subclip. No…calling Favorites subclips is disingenuous fanboy nonsense in my opinion. Favorites don’t provide anything close to the ease or functionality of a real subclip. I do hope FCPx will someday gain the functionality of FCP7 but it’s not even close and it doesn’t appear to be headed there.

[Oliver Peters]

[bud kuenzli] “I say “NONSENSE” to all the commentary about using Favorites. FCPX doesn’t do subclips. All you can do is label a section of clip. That isn’t a subclip. “

I’m sorry, but yes that is a subclip. In every NLE, a subclip is nothing other than a section of a larger master clip. When you select ranged favorites in FCP X that’s broken out as a separate item under the clip’s reveal triangle. Click on it and it loads that section. If you create a smart collection and set the right criteria (hardly rocket science) ranged-based favorites are automatically placed into your smart collection. So you have a “bin” with your “subclips” just like in FCP 7. The difference is they got there automatically without the need to drag them there manually.

[bud kuenzli] “export it as a quicktime movie, and then import it and Voila! You then have a real subclip. “

Actually, no you don’t. You now have a new piece of media without any relationship to the original file. That’s a new master clip, not a subclip in anyone’s NLE.

BTW – you are posting this in a ONE-YEAR-OLD thread! A lot has changed since then with the app and many of us have a lot more seat time on daily projects since that original thread.

– Oliver

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[Bud Kuenzli]

I realize it’s a one year old thread…and you’re right about the master clip. Perhaps there’s a dictionary definition of subclip but I don’t think a selection of a clip that is simply a keywording of a clip portion provides the same functionality that a subclip did. In FCP7 when you create a subclip you can then add a single effect to that clip while it sits in the browser without any further hassle.It can go into the Canvas and be manipulated and returned to a bin for use at a later date within a timeline. It acts as if it is an entirely separate clip. That behavior and functionality is not duplicated in FCPX and hence I think that calling a Favorite the same as a subclip isn’t appropriate. We’ll just have to disagree on this, I think, but as I continue to work on wrapping my head around FCPx I come across posts, both old and new, hence my reply.

[Oliver Peters]

[bud kuenzli] ” In FCP7 when you create a subclip you can then add a single effect to that clip while it sits in the browser without any further hassle.It can go into the Canvas and be manipulated and returned to a bin for use at a later date within a timeline. It acts as if it is an entirely separate clip. That behavior and functionality is not duplicated in FCPX”

That behavior has nothing to do specifically with subclips. In fact, it’s a behavior that doesn’t really exist in the same manner in any other NLE either AFAIK. And yes, it doesn’t exist in the same way in FCP X. There’s only “open in timeline” and AFAIK, that’s only for full master clips. Functionality has changed in X. Some ways better some ways worse.

– Oliver

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Orlando, FL
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[Ben Edwards]

I know this is a old thread but the simple answer us use labelled markers, or make a short compound clip (would go for first option). FCPx does require a different approach but it is not always a worse one (sometimes better). See https://sites.google.com/site/bristolvideoeditorcamera/res/fcpx-tutorials#TOC-How-to-set-label-and-change-Colours-of-Markers. for into no the marker option.

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