Is ‘Trim Edit’ Still used

[Olin Padilla]

Right click on a cut point and select trim. Is that what you mean?

[Ben Edwards]

Yes, is this the best way to do fine trimming?

[Victor Perez]

Trim Edit to view your out and in points at the same time and adjust accordingly? Yes. Use it all the time. If you are looking for a refresher on the Trim Edit in Final Cut Pro. Diane explains it in this document

https://www.weynand.com/wt/thetrimeditwindow/

I am sure there are other tutorials on it here as well.

Victor
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[Nick Meyers]

i don’t use the FCP trim window that much, as you have most of the same functionality in the timeline.

i find i use it most on drama projects,
or if i need to to actually see an extension,
(like if i’m curious about the next line of interview, or what happens next in the shot)

the FCP trim window doesn’t seem quite as slick as Avid’s to me.
i don’t use avid really, but when i was on it recently i could see how you can spend a lot of time in trim window.

one thing you’ll probably wan to do in FCP:
set the trim window to “Dynamic” that’ll mimic the Avid experience a bit more.

nick

[Jeremy Garchow]

I agree. I use the ripple (rr) and roll (r) tools, combined with the left and right brackets, much to the same effect.

It’s all done right in the timeline.

[Ben Edwards]

Thanks for everyone’s replies.

In terms of using the timeline are there keyboard short cuts to play a loop round the cursor and are there keyboard shortcuts to move edit point left/right 1 or 5 frames? Te later is also a question concerning Trim Edit, there do not seem to be keyboard shortcuts for the +/-1 and +/- 5 buttons.

Ben

[Miriam Lefkowitz]

Not sure if this is what you are asking but if you want to loop playback:

Turn on View-Loop Playback (Ctrl, L)

Then check the options under Mark, Play.
You can loop around the playhead (\)
You can loop from In to Out points (Shift, \)
and so on.

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[Jeremy Garchow]

rr to select the ripple tool, select which side of the edit you want to adjust (click and select the right or left side so it’s “highlighted”) use the left and right bracket keys to adjust one frame. Hold shift then press bracket and it will adjust 5 frames. You can also use comma and period keys to the same effect.

You can adjust the amount of “trim many” frames in the user prefs. Final Cut Pro > User Preferences > Editing tab. Adjust the “multi-frame trim “size”.

Hope that helps.

[Nick Meyers]

for nudging, i use the “Chicken beak” keys <+>,
as Jeremy points out you can also use the square bracket kets [ + ]

mostly, i just enter a desired value with the numbber key:
do i want to ad four frames? then +4 will do it

all these approaches will nudge any selected item in the timeline,
edit points, or whole clips,
it’ll move the clips, or if you have the slip or slide tools activated, slip or slide them.

the bad news is you CAN’T slip or slide clips in the Trim Window like you can in avid.
also you cant Slip or slide a RANGE of clips like you can in avid.
Slipping a range will slip the contents of each clip, sliding a rang does stuff so whacky i haven’t really figured it out yet.

when trimming in the Timeline, i generally summon the ripple tool, (rr)
especially when i’m doing a-symmetrical trimming,

but for trimming a simple assembly, you can just select the edit
by clicking on it or hitting V (Which will select any nearest edit point)
then using the U key to toggle which side of the edit you are trimming.

cheers,
nick

[Ben Edwards]

Thanks everybody for your replies.

I come from a Sony Vegas background and am trying to find the best way to migrate my working practices.

In FCP is there a ‘play and return’ as well as a ‘play/pause’. In Vegas the return key allows you to ‘play/pause’ in the same way as FCP does with spacebar. The space bar actually has a ‘play and return’ functionality. This plays from the cursor when spacebar is pressed and when spacebar is pressed again returns to the cursor. This allows a in (or out) point to be found easily. The left/right arrows are used to nudge to the frame and spacebar plays from the cursor. This is done until the place is found.

Ben