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  • Is this a stupid question? – Sharp Subs on small files??

    Posted by Josh Evans on July 9, 2009 at 4:01 am

    Im trying to get sharp Subtitles on a file that is 720 X 405 pixels, to put on the web.

    Of course, in FCP the text is beautiful, sharp etc etc.

    But then compress that sucker into the 720 X 40 and then playing at fullscreen, looks fine but the text looks crappy.

    Are there any tricks around this? logically, it seems impossible to make the movie smaller and have the text stay sharp as it is in the HD version of the movie, but then again im sure i seen stuff online that has super sharp text over a low res movie. Is that because their text is coming from somewhere else i.e. a flash overlay or something?

    BOOM

    Girshon Rutstein replied 16 years, 10 months ago 6 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Russell Lasson

    July 9, 2009 at 4:31 am

    What is your sequence set to? What are your compression settings?

    -Russ

    Russell Lasson
    Colorist/Digital Cinema Specialist
    Color Mill
    Salt Lake City, UT
    http://www.colormill.net

  • Girshon Rutstein

    July 9, 2009 at 5:13 am

    They create text in Flash, (vector) and have under neath FLV streaming file.

  • Josh Evans

    July 9, 2009 at 5:23 am

    I created a sequence exact same as what i want to output.

    754 X 424

    Compressor: H.264

    Original is 720p

  • Josh Evans

    July 9, 2009 at 5:23 am

    ah man, yeah i thought so, but this kinda isnt an option as it means handing off the work to the already-overworked Flash guys in my company.

    I dont suppose there is some way for me to create these myself without flash? Probably not.

  • Girshon Rutstein

    July 9, 2009 at 6:00 am

    Export as Animation and use Sorenson squeeze to make FLV file. You will get the best results.

  • Josh Evans

    July 9, 2009 at 6:41 am

    thanks ill give that a whirl for sure.

    cheers,

    J

  • Dean Sensui

    July 9, 2009 at 8:54 am

    Output a file or reference file from your original sequence in the same 720p format it’s currently in. Don’t scale down in FCP — that’s probably the reason it looks lousy.

    Drop the file into Compressor and scale it in there. Use the H.264 codec, variable bitrate encoding (VBR) and add about 10 to 20 percent sharpening. The sharpening will increase your encoding time tremendously, but the results are a lot clearer. If it takes too long then you can forget about the sharpening.

    Dean Sensui — Hawaii Goes Fishing

  • Todd Reid

    July 9, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    Adobe Media Encoder does a great job too!

    another things to possibly consider is:
    are your text lines positioned on even/whole numbers (ie 12 instead of 11.7)?
    is your font just too thin?
    try creating font in Motion or use Boris 3d Text (FCP text tool not the best)

    doubt any of these are your issue, but its worth noting just in case.

    Todd Reid
    Senior Editor
    Digitized Media, Inc.

  • Todd Reid

    July 9, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    Did you say that your sequence is H.624?

    I thought that was a delivery codec and not great to edit in.

    Try changing your sequence (prores?) and see if that helps.
    You may be hitting a weird compression scheme hiccup.

    I have have good results with text final converted to flash, so I know its possible without the flash overlays (which would obviously be better quality).

    Todd Reid
    Senior Editor
    Digitized Media, Inc.

  • David Bogie

    July 9, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    One of the best suggestions for improving text that is eventually going to be transcoded is to reduce the transparency in the original and to add a wee bit of halo around it. This dramatically reduces the amount of pixelation in the final transcode because the adjacent pixels do not have sharp or abrupt rise times.

    bogiesan

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