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  • Bill Davis

    July 23, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    [Randy Burleson] “Is there anyway to export/share a reference movie like you could in FCP 7?”

    It would be helpful if you could define what you consider a “reference movie” in terms of what you typically do with them.

    Do you need this to be merely a low rez standalone proxy? As a specific asset for further work? If so within what workflow? Something to use for mobile editing that needs to eventually be linked back to the full-rez timeline?

    A lot of the functions in X are different enough that when you try to “replace” a function that worked for you in Legacy, you can have arrays of options that will do similar things in X, some of which might be better suited to that task you actually want to accomplish.

    So more information would be very helpful (at least to me) to try and help you get a satisfying answer.

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  • Alban Egger

    July 23, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    No. Doesn´t exist anymore.

    I used REF-movies so I could send them to Compressor without an intermediate render (mind you, REF movies did render when you had effects applied). FCPX does send timelines directly to Compressor (“Send to Compressor” command).

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 23, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    Also, there’s this: https://clipexporter.mindtransplant.com/

    Not really what you’re looking for but thought I’d toss it out for interest purposes.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 23, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    Also, by reference movie, I’m assuming you mean non-self contained.

  • Oliver Peters

    July 23, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    QT reference movies worked with FCP “legacy” because all clips of mixed codecs were first rendered to a common sequence codec. That’s no longer the case with X, since it can mix some native codecs without the need to render. It now works more or less the same way that Premiere Pro works.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Randy Burleson

    July 24, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    The reason I was looking for a way to get a QT Reference movie is that currently I have to export 2 different videos clips for closed captioning. the first clip would be the reference file (This is where the Reference movie would be great) and the second clip would be the MPEG 2 422 HD file this is the only file type that I can use on my play out server.
    The reason being that Mac Caption does not play MPEG2 422 files so I have to first import a H.264 clip to use as my reference and then marry the resulting Mac Caption file to the other MPEG file.
    A QT Reference file would save me a lot of rendering time.

  • Tom Brooks

    July 24, 2012 at 2:34 pm

    I’m not finding FCX to be a time-saver in these situations. It seems to be slow on any kind of export–like it always re-renders in 32 bit float. But for this workflow, I’d probably use the suggested Send to Compressor and then apply two presets there. Or just Export Media under the Share menu and take the resulting self-contained QT into Compressor or another compression program.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 24, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    [Randy Burleson] “The reason I was looking for a way to get a QT Reference movie is that currently I have to export 2 different videos clips for closed captioning. the first clip would be the reference file (This is where the Reference movie would be great) and the second clip would be the MPEG 2 422 HD file this is the only file type that I can use on my play out server.
    The reason being that Mac Caption does not play MPEG2 422 files so I have to first import a H.264 clip to use as my reference and then marry the resulting Mac Caption file to the other MPEG file.
    A QT Reference file would save me a lot of rendering time.”

    Yep, that’s valid.

    FCPX simply works differently than fcp7. When working, I tend to render as little as possible in FCPX and save the rendering for compressor.

    As has been mentioned, you can export straight to compressor. In your case, I’d leave the timeline unrendered, export to Compressor and make both the h264 and mpeg2 at the same time.

    This will forgo a traditional render then export cycle like we are used to in fcp7.

    Hope that helps and makes sense.

    Jeremy

  • Oliver Peters

    July 24, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    Rendering inside FCP X is slow because it’s a “idle task” and doesn’t use full system resources. When you export, it uses full resources and the built-in rendering that occurs in the export is significantly faster than when you render inside the app.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • James Ewart

    August 9, 2012 at 10:29 am

    I must say I miss this too. For speed I would export a reference movie and then use Mpeg Streamclip to get on with creating whatever I want and carry on working in FCP.

    I much prefer Mpeg Streamclip to Compressor.

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