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Is there any scene detect filter for PPro?
I know that you can use the scene detect feature when you capture DV-material shot with a DV-camera but is there a filter to split a longer avi file based on the content (e.g. if you have transferred material from a Hi8 camera to a DV-tape where there are no markers from the cameras rec on/off)?
I used to have a pinnacle capturing card with such a filter for Premiere 6.5 but that card is outdated and does not work with PPro. Searching the forum on this topic gave a recommendation to a software calle ScenalyzerLive but my question is, is there a way to do this in PPro? It seems like a very useful filter that should be included./Joakim
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There isn’t any way to my knowledge to do this inside PPro.
It would have to sense sufficient pixel changes to signify a camera roll stop/start…but if you’re doing a million takes of a talking head on-camera person, the pixel changes may not be significant…
I’ve never used Scenalyzer myself so I don’t know how it actually “senses” the scene changes. It may very well work this way though as I know a very common workflow with Scenalyzer is to capture an entire tape and break it afterward.
TimK,
Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
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Scenalyzer Live only works with DV inputs, but if the source is analogue via a converter/passthrough then lack of date/time for scene detect can be overcome by switching to optical scene detection instead.
Try before buy (watermarked captures) from http://www.scenalyzer.com. Get the v4 beta, which is very stable and has many more useful features than the original release.
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Thanks for the input to Tim and David.
Too bad there is no way to do this inside PPro. Seems like a fairly simple function to implement since its been around for a while. I know its not perfect (the one I used in P 6.5 gave a lot of “false” detections when there was too much motion in the movie) but it was so useful that you easily forgive those shortcomings. Maybe I should get that old card running just to split some large clips.
/Joakim
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The original version of Scenalyzer split clips that already had been captured using optical scene detection. It is still available as a free download from scenalyzer.com. Might be worth a try for you.
BTW, the Pinnacle DV500 included a scene-splitter filter with the v4 drivers, but this is not portable from 6.x to PPro. So the technology is well understood, but apparently in the wrong camp.
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Hi David
The Pinnacle DV500 card is exactly the card I have been using with Premiere 6.5 and is the card I referred to in my posts. Since the scene detect was implemented in this fairly cheap card I thought it would for sure be found in more sophisticated software as PPro but obviously not.Thanks anyhow
/Joakim
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