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  • Is there a difference between 16×9 and 1.77:1 ?

    Posted by Gary Gowman on July 2, 2008 at 6:35 pm

    I was asked to make two versions of a movie. One at 16×9 full frame and a 1.77 version. Is there a difference?

    Gary Gowman-Video Director
    Louisiana Media Services
    4K, 2K/DI, HDcamSR
    Assimilate Scratch and FCS2/Kona3 Suites
    Full Audio Production

    Jeremy Garchow replied 17 years, 10 months ago 2 Members · 7 Replies
  • 7 Replies
  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 2, 2008 at 6:37 pm

    That’s the same aspect ratio.

    16 divided by 9 is 1.77 (sometimes rounded to 1.78)

  • Gary Gowman

    July 2, 2008 at 6:48 pm

    That’s what I thought. We were asked to make two versions (by a major film company). Must have been an intern filling in today. 🙂

    Gary Gowman-Video Director
    Louisiana Media Services
    4K, 2K/DI, HDcamSR
    Assimilate Scratch and FCS2/Kona3 Suites
    Full Audio Production

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 2, 2008 at 6:59 pm

    What’s the aspect of your source material?

    The reason I ask is because you can crop your image (if it’s bigger than 16×9) to 16×9 full frame. Then you can keep the aspect of your source material and letterbox it to 1.77:1

    Jeremy

  • Gary Gowman

    July 2, 2008 at 7:43 pm

    Not sure. I was only asked by my boss if there was a difference. I said they are the same and he replied that we were asked to make two deliverables as 16×9 full frame and another as 1.77. He will get back to the person asking for the two versions. 🙂

    Gary Gowman-Video Director
    Louisiana Media Services
    4K, 2K/DI, HDcamSR
    Assimilate Scratch and FCS2/Kona3 Suites
    Full Audio Production

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 2, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    Yeah, there’s a difference but it wholly depends on your source material. If it’s bigger than HD than this is where it will come in to play.

    Jeremy

  • Gary Gowman

    July 2, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    Project was shot with Sony F900 to HDcamSR deck as 422. We captured as HD 422 and edited, CC and so on. Nothing here about SD and letterbox, anamorphic. Just a request to deliver 16×9 full frame and another 1.77 both on HDcam tapes. Mee thinx thay konfuzed.

    Gary Gowman-Video Director
    Louisiana Media Services
    4K, 2K/DI, HDcamSR
    Assimilate Scratch and FCS2/Kona3 Suites
    Full Audio Production

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 2, 2008 at 11:27 pm

    [Gary Gowman] “Mee thinx thay konfuzed.”

    Well, no. 16×9 full frame would be your full HD frame (since you shot HD).

    But if you had a 2k frame, instead of cropping your frame to 16×9, you keep the 2k aspect ratio of the frame size and letterbox it to 1.77:1. Since you are in nothing but 16×9, you will probably only have to deliver 16×9. Hence they say 16×9 Full frame and then 1.77:1 (which would be a 16×9 letterbox within a frame of whatever your aspect ratio is that’s beyond 1080 HD).

    Make sense?

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