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  • is super 16 cost effective? cost/min of super 16, DI, 35mm conversion?

    Posted by Ed Brown on May 3, 2005 at 1:19 am

    I am an aspiring Indie producer. If one goes to cost and effort of making a feature, one wants marketable medium to sell. Forgetting shooting ratios, what is cost per minute of super 16 Kodak new film, getting to DI, and then getting 35 mm master?
    Or perhaps, going from super 16, to DI, to hard drive master?
    Ed Brown

    Sameer Shrivastava replied 19 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Mark Lyon

    May 3, 2005 at 4:57 am

    Well, I can take a crack at the first part.

    Film: Figure on $.35/foot for raw stock, full-retail, from Kodak. (You can get deals, of course, but for the sake of argument…). So, at 36 feet/minute, that’s $12.60/minute of shot film.

    Processing: Figure on $.12/foot, or $4.32/minute

    Telecine: Plan on $400/hour, and a 4:1 transfer ratio (you can significantly reduce these numbers, but this will get you a good supervised transfer with a competent colorist and good gear). So, a minute of film will take 4 minutes to transfer, and will cost you about $27.

    Now you’re ready to do your edit, and you’ve spent about $45/minute. I’m sure someone else will correct any math mistakes I’m making, and hopefully provide you with good info for DI and film out to 35. I shoot a ton of Super 16, but so far it’s all ended up in video.

    Best of luck–

    Mark Lyon
    Mighty Max Films

  • David Jones

    May 3, 2005 at 10:20 pm
  • Ed Brown

    May 4, 2005 at 11:23 am

    Thanks for info
    give me reality of project
    Ed

  • Sameer Shrivastava

    May 8, 2005 at 12:23 am

    Yes, it’s cost effective. almost 1/3 to 1/4th in terms of rawstock alone. Plus you can shoot really fast on 16mm as the cameras are lighter and easy to move around. plus camera crew is less. the cost of DI negates this advantage. But i have seen some really good optical blow ups. You can sell your film before the DI. i.e do the di once you have sold the film. so that budget for Di comes from there. Otherwise you have to purchase that much extra stock etc from your film budget. Di also saves the cost of Final TK for dvd and braodcast.
    now think your self
    sameer shrivastava

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