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  • Macbain

    April 21, 2014 at 6:06 am

    As I’ve heard a couple people mention, the most disruptive element may well be the FREE-ness. We all talked about how cheap FCPX was in comparison to Avid/Premiere, and that low price point will bring in all the kids who will start by editing their skate videos (which has certainly come to pass), and in 15 years those folks will be running the industry, cutting their features, ostensibly preferring to use their first NLE, FCPX.

    But FCPX is still hundreds of dollars. Resolve is FREE. Zip. Zilch. Zero dollars and zero cents.

    We thought Avid/Premiere would be sweating because of the price point… but now FCPX may well be the one sweating, as the “low end” market could suddenly be going elsewhere, and quickly.

    Kooky times.

  • Ronny Courtens

    April 21, 2014 at 6:50 am

    I look forward to it because it has tracks! 🙂

    Exactlly! For editors who only swear by track-based video editing this could be the next NLE of choice if it evolves into a full-fledged NLE that really works as demoed.

    For those who also have discovered the power of trackless editing FCP X and R11 could be a perfect combination offering the best of both worlds. Right now R11 already scaringly looks and feels like X, it misses some things X is very strong in and it has some things that X is painfully missing. I’m really looking forward to testing this thoroughly.

    IF Resolve really grows into the NLE you’ve always wanted, the future debate forum will not be “Resolve or FCP X: The Debate”. It will be “Resolve and FCP X or the rest: The Debate”.

    – Ronny

  • Ronny Courtens

    April 21, 2014 at 7:11 am

    We all talked about how cheap FCPX was in comparison to Avid/Premiere, and that low price point will bring in all the kids who will start by editing their skate videos (which has certainly come to pass), and in 15 years those folks will be running the industry, cutting their features, ostensibly preferring to use their first NLE, FCPX.

    Anyone who thinks this has no clue about how much the industry has changed in 15 years, and even more in the last five years. No matter what those kids are editing their skate videos in today, it won’t be here anymore in 15 years or it will be completely different. This reasoning makes no sense.

    But I do share your premature enthusiasm about Resolve 11 as an NLE. If it really turns out to work as advertised this will hurt other track-based editing options. I don’t think it will hurt FCP X that much because it does not have the magnetic trackless editing that is unique to X. And if after all this time you still think that the magnetic timeline only excels for home videos… well, what can I say?

  • Charlie Austin

    April 21, 2014 at 7:29 am

    [Greg Lee] “but now FCPX may well be the one sweating, as the “low end” market could suddenly be going elsewhere, and quickly.”

    Many of the “kids cutting sk8r videos” on Macs are using iMovie. It’s free, and comes preloaded on your computer. Given a choice between FCP X and Premiere/Resolve/MC etc, which do you think they’ll prefer?

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  • Lance Bachelder

    April 21, 2014 at 7:31 am

    Totally disagree – Media Composer has been going pretty strong now for 25 years and most of the Avid veterans still cut with it – many exclusively. FCP as a brand has been going for 15 years now, Premiere even longer, same with Vegas. Apps change or evolve, and either get better or fade away. Kids cutting today on X or whatever will most likely continue to use whatever they started with and grow with it, especially because it’s from Apple.

    Resolve is different than any other NLE launch, it already has a serious pedigree as the color tool of choice on some of the biggest movies of all time. So tell a kid he can use the same tool they used on their favorite blockbuster, FOR FREE, and now not only learn to edit but learn to color and finish their work at a high level and that becomes very compelling. None of this matters if editing in Resolve totally sucks, but based on what I’ve seen it may actually be the NLE many of us have dreamed about…

    Lance Bachelder
    Writer, Editor, Director
    Downtown Long Beach, California
    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1680680/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

  • Xavier Casado

    April 21, 2014 at 9:21 am

    What was Paul Saccione, FCP marketing director , doing onstage, during the Resolve show? It´s a little bit extrange Isn´t it?

  • Ronny Courtens

    April 21, 2014 at 12:54 pm

    Paul Saccone worked for Apple until May 2013, then he became Interim Director of Operations at the San Francisco Gay Men’s Chorus until he joined BMD as Marketing Director in January 2014.

    – Ronny

  • David Mathis

    April 21, 2014 at 2:41 pm

    [Greg Lee] ” Resolve is FREE. Zip. Zilch. Zero dollars and zero cents.”

    That is true for the Lite version. For anyone needing to work in a group environment, on a 3D project, or at a resolution higher than HD the full (paid) version will be a necessity. The full version is $995, still a very solid value.

    I enjoy working with Final Cut Pro X because you can create custom effects in Motion for later use. Not to mention you can create a really nice lower third. Now that I am working towards getting a Black Magic Cinema Camera, most of the work will now be done in Resolve, when the new version comes out. Not going to jump ship just yet.

    In the event that the Hit Film plug-in is supported in Resolve, then that will be a true game changer !

  • Michael Hancock

    April 21, 2014 at 2:47 pm

    [David Mathis] “or at a resolution higher than HD”

    Lite now supports UHD for output, but can work with any resolution. So you can use 5K footage to reframe, but can only ouput UHD.

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    Michael Hancock
    Editor

  • Macbain

    April 21, 2014 at 4:46 pm

    “And if after all this time you still think that the magnetic timeline only excels for home videos… well, what can I say?”

    Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply that. That’s just what I use it for, and it’s great. In fact, I think FCPX could be very interesting for cutting a feature doc, I could see it being way faster than the “traditional” paradigm NLE for that.

    I can’t use it professionally, because I cut TV spots, and if I plant my end card at :30, I need it to stay there (and I know about workarounds, but they’re workarounds). Now if Apple would only take my suggestion to create an “anchor clip” command, so that you could tell certain clips to never move, and the magnetic timeline would simply flow around those clips, like water flows around a rock in a stream… But alas 😉

    I will also say this… I’m looking at buying the Blackmagic Pocket cam, and maybe the 2.5K one as well. Those are clearly “high-end prosumer” products, being over 1,000 bucks and challenging to shoot with. And if you go on Vimeo and search for “BMPCC” or “Blackmagic”, you’ll find 80% of the videos are cut in FCPX. Those people are high-end users or high-end-aspirant users. So I certainly admit it’s not just “sk8tr videos”.

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