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  • Adam Claude jones

    February 24, 2010 at 4:41 am

    Thanks again Gary.
    Yeah, I have to figure out the best workflow.
    So to summarize about my original question which we got a little side tracked to post workflow and the question was about capturing codec, I should use ProRes 422 HQ to capture the 10 bit 4:2:2 1080p footage for green screen and not ProRes 4444 right?

    Somebody also suggested Motion JPEG saying if i don’t want to go full uncompressed this is a good option.
    Not that I don’t want to go uncompressed, I don’t think we can really afford it, besides so many have said you can’t really tell the difference in the key with Prores.

    Thanks.

  • Gary Adcock

    February 24, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    [Adam Claude Jones] ” I should use ProRes 422 HQ to capture the 10 bit 4:2:2 1080p footage for green screen”

    Direct from the camera -correct.

    “Somebody also suggested Motion JPEG saying if i don’t want to go full uncompressed “

    I would not, since you will loose all of the RTX functionality in Final Cut if you use M jpeg, since that is a very old codec (and can be 8 bit or less at higher compression ratios)

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows for the Digitally Inclined
    Chicago, IL

    https://blogs.creativecow.net/24640

    https://library.creativecow.net/articles/adcock_gary/AJAIOHD.php

  • Rafael Amador

    February 24, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    [Adam Claude Jones]
    “Somebody also suggested Motion JPEG”
    If you consider this suggestion, you should think about to hire a proffessional to help you with your job.
    Best,
    Rafael

    Best,
    Rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Rafael Amador

    February 24, 2010 at 4:18 pm

    Gary,
    I don’t gonna waist my time going through all your contradictory post about Proress.
    You state now the opposite of what you said few weeks ago:

    https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/8/1070538

    Contradiction is natural in the human being, but I’m too old to play game.

    And if you want to be a full guru, be carefullwith statement like this one about the “DCT conpression of the Apple 8/10b Uncompress”.
    People may lose the faith.
    I’ll be without Internet for one week or so, but we can caht when I come back.
    Best,
    rafael
    PS: Do you remember the tale of “The Naked King”?

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Gary Adcock

    February 24, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    [Rafael Amador] “I don’t gonna waist my time going through all your contradictory post about Proress. You state now the opposite of what you said few weeks ago:
    https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/8/1070538

    No, not at all.
    I see nothing contradictory about that statement, especially in context as listed here when asked about using ProRes specifically for a filmouts.https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/8/1075694

    “And if you want to be a full guru, be carefullwith statement like this one about the “DCT conpression of the Apple 8/10b Uncompress”. “

    EH? I don’t understand your comment and since you did not offer a link to any statement that I have made, I figure you are just trying to make a point.

    However – do realize that the Uncompressed is talking about the video signal and not the file compression? Otherwise you would be working with the codec called NONE.

    “Do you remember the tale of “The Naked King”? “

    That fable is called “The Emperor’s New Clothes” in the West, and funny I think it applies more to you than to me. I have articles, whitepapers and published data that back my opinions and statements and my experience.

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows for the Digitally Inclined
    Chicago, IL

    https://blogs.creativecow.net/24640

    https://library.creativecow.net/articles/adcock_gary/AJAIOHD.php

  • Adam Claude jones

    February 24, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    [Gary Adcock] “Direct from the camera -correct”

    Yep. Straight out of the HD-SDI into a Blackmagic Decklink card.
    Thanks for the confirmation. I just wanted to make that I should be using ProRes HQ.

  • Rafael Amador

    February 25, 2010 at 3:55 am

    [gary adcock] “”And if you want to be a full guru, be carefullwith statement like this one about the “DCT conpression of the Apple 8/10b Uncompress”. ”

    EH? I don’t understand your comment and since you did not offer a link to any statement that I have made, I figure you are just trying to make a point.

    However – do realize that the Uncompressed is talking about the video signal and not the file compression? Otherwise you would be working with the codec called NONE.”

    Here you have the link:

    https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/8/1063573

    What a heck you say now about NONE?
    As I said, I’ll be out of reach for a couple ofweeks, after we will have some for a technicall discussion.
    If you want.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

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