Is it time to change….I don’t wanna!

[Joe Moya]

Could be your computer system needs updating or changing… just a thought.

[Peter Berthet]

id suggest trying CS4 first, its actually quite nice 🙂

especially if you like working with the ‘suite’ situation that adobe is so good at

~Peter Berthet
Sydney, Australia

[David Dobson]

Well I’ve got CS4 and Encore is better but PPro has crashed 10 times today while I was just doing very normal editing tasks like scrubbing though clips or – you know- making an edit. I will say the crashed have mostly occurred with one project that is DVCProHD 720p24. My HDV and DV projects don’t crash. But load times for eveything are long – especially projects with lots of clips.

I’ve never see Vegas and I used to work with Avid a lot and PPro CS4 is really nice – when it doesn’t crash. I’ve sent in about 100 crash reports since I got it.

[Joe Kauffman]

I have a good dedicated video production machine currently running Quad Xeon processors, dual FX570 vid cards, 4 gigs of ram and 1tb of space. One of the reasons I upgraded to this machine was hoping I would get some better stability out of the CS3 suite.

I have been very curious of any buggy type fixes that may have been released with CS4 which is one of my reasons for this post. I will either be upgrading to CS4, or after thinking about it last night, moving to Avid Media Composer. I used Liquid Edition back when it was still Pinnacle and liked the stability, but it lacked some of the punch and power Premier Pro has.

[Joe Moya]

Well, …I still use Avid/Pinnacle liquid for my editor because it is so much more stable than most editing softwares I have used (which includes Adobe PP). As far as more “punch and power” of PP over Liquid, I am not sure that is true (assuming you were using Liquid 7.2). Actually, I find them almost equal in ability with liquid having some slight advantages (with stability being a big advantage).

Your system resources appear more than capable… but, my guess is there is some driver conflicts and/or software issues with CS4 and your new machine.

Have you contacted Adobes Support?

[Joe Kauffman]

I haven’t contacted support yet…as I’m still running CS3. My tunnel vision was set to just finish up my latest project, then make the necessary adjustments & changes.

Going off memory, I think I was running Pinnacle Liquid 6.0 at the time and haven’t touched any Avid products since that release. Would you say that Liquid 7.2 is the most directly comparable software Avid offers to PP? I’ve been reading a bit about the Media Composer software that sounds intriguing.

[Mike Cohen]

we have had a few CS3 projects which make you want to tear your hair out. Lucky for me most of my hair is not within reach!

Usually there was something about the project which made it unstable. For example, one recent project had about 30 supers, all made from one original title. That seemed to make Premiere crash at the blink of your eye.

Other times there has been an image file or video that for whatever reason Premiere just did not like. The bigger your project file gets, the less stable the project MAY become – people have reported breaking projects into smaller pieces to improve stability.

Have you tried using ctrl+alt+del, performance, to see how much resources Premiere is using. If it is maxing out during routine editing, report back here.

CS4 we have crashed a few times, usually doing something routine like Saving a project. As long as we don’t save our work it seems pretty stable LOL!!

Asking “should I stop using Premiere” in a Premiere forum is not likely to answer your question. But we will help you figure out why you are having such trouble.

Mike

[Joe Moya]

Liquid 7.2 with all the free plug-ins is waaay more punch than 6.0… in fact, it wasn’t until CS3 did Adobe’s PP play catch up in NLE terms. Of course, the downside to Liquid is that it is not linked to compositing software as Adobe (…which is a big advantage for Adobe).

Also, Liquid is being replaced by a “nexgen” product sometime this year. My guess it will be a multi-track version of Studio with much of what AVID’s MC offers but without networking capability.

I believe I just saw an offer to upgrade from any previous version of Liquid to 7.2 for about 69 dollars (which is a steal!!!). My guess is they are trying to get some more Liquid uses so that when Nexgen comes out later this year they can charge for an upgrade to what is probably a modified version of Avid MC (…but, priced more like Adobe products).

Now… back to your problem…. as Mike pointed out… your problem is likely a codec comflict with Adobe. I ALWAYS try and work with the most common Adobe native codecs (even if I have to convert)… and, I NEVER mix different video file formats in the same project. This seems to cause a lot of issues that only seem to pop up late into the project and as it becomes more complicated.

[Tim Kolb]

Yes, I have noticed that some projects with considerable title alterations or, as Mike mentions, projects with a ton of ‘saved as’ titles -can- be quirky in CS3 (other projects with many saved as titles run fine BTW).

TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,

[Mark Palmos]

Ji Joe,

It could be your computer system, but I switched to FCP for the exact same reason, PP crashing several times a day is just not OK… the only time I ever crash FCP is when I try to load a still image over 4000 pixels long. Pity FCP is on the mac though, I prefer FCP to premier, but prefer XP to OSX and OSX is definitly not more stable than XP.

Good luck
Mark.