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  • Is it me or is Quicktime h.264 rubbish;)

    Posted by Ben Edwards on April 29, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    I have been editing a project on PP CS6 shot of a GH2 with some nice old nickon lenses ands it looks great. I was using the YouTube HD 720p preset from Media Encoder and everything was looking great.

    I how have the delivery requirement and they are looking for Quicktime H.264. I have tried load of setting including the ‘Broadcast’ 10bmps setting, the problem is when there is a lot of movement and a lot of detail it does not look good/is blury (6mb/s gave nice results with good old mp4). The preset was using a keyframes every 90 frames, I have tried 1 and 25 but no joy.

    Any ideas?


    Ben Edwards – Freelance Picture Editor
    https://www.funkytwig.com

    i5 550, Windows 7 / Mac Lion, Nvida 550 Ti, 8GB Mem

    Erik Lindahl replied 13 years ago 9 Members · 12 Replies
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  • John-michael Seng-wheeler

    April 29, 2013 at 8:57 pm

    I stopped using Quicktime H.264 three years ago for this vary reason.

    Way back in CS3 it worked… I don’t know when or why things went south.

    If they MUST have a Quicktime and it MUST be H.264 then I think your only option is to push up the data rate till the image doen’t look bad.

    Try 25Mb/s and see if that works.

  • Tim Kolb

    April 30, 2013 at 12:48 am

    [John-Michael Seng-Wheeler] “Way back in CS3 it worked… I don’t know when or why things went south. “

    I think the main issue is that while the rest of the universe was working to advance their software, QuickTime was left to go to seed…

    MP4s play in QuickTime on Macs last I knew…are there web applications where a “mov” wrapper is mandatory?

    TimK,
    Director, Consultant
    Kolb Productions,

    Adobe Certified Instructor

  • John-michael Seng-wheeler

    April 30, 2013 at 1:52 am

    [Tim Kolb] “I think the main issue is that while the rest of the universe was working to advance their software, QuickTime was left to go to seed…

    That is defiantly true, but in this case there was a very noticeable drop in quality.

    I jumped from CS3 to CS5 and at the same time switched computers. (both were windows.)

    The exact settings I’d used before (usually 5Mb/s) were suddenly producing complete crap.

  • Tim Kolb

    April 30, 2013 at 3:37 am

    [John-Michael Seng-Wheeler] “I jumped from CS3 to CS5 and at the same time switched computers. (both were windows.)

    The exact settings I’d used before (usually 5Mb/s) were suddenly producing complete crap.”

    Yeah…that was the Adobe jump from 32 bit to 64 bit…and of course QT stayed where it was, so Adobe had to develop that QT32server app to try to be able to even use it…

    TimK,
    Director, Consultant
    Kolb Productions,

    Adobe Certified Instructor

  • John-michael Seng-wheeler

    April 30, 2013 at 5:18 am

    My personal guess is that it was actually the jump from XP to Windows 7. Apple didn’t bother making a decent version of Quicktime for Win 7.

  • Tim Kolb

    April 30, 2013 at 8:35 am

    [John-Michael Seng-Wheeler] “My personal guess is that it was actually the jump from XP to Windows 7. Apple didn’t bother making a decent version of Quicktime for Win 7.”

    Assuming you weren’t running XP 64, the OS took that same 32 to 64 bit jump then…the same as I did. Few of my hardware drivers were even released for Vista.

    TimK,
    Director, Consultant
    Kolb Productions,

    Adobe Certified Instructor

  • Ivan Myles

    April 30, 2013 at 10:46 am

    [Ben Edwards] “the problem is when there is a lot of movement and a lot of detail it does not look good/is blury”

    Try unconstrained bitrate and Quality=100. If that doesn’t work, generate an intermediate file and encode with QuickTime Pro at max settings.

  • Gene Weglarz

    April 30, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    I’ve been using Premiere Pro for years; back to version 1.5. The comments are all correct. I try to never use the Quicktime h.264 codec. When I do, I have to bump it to somewhere between 18Mbs and 25Mbs. Makes a large file and not good for streaming, but the quality is OK.

  • Paul Jay

    May 1, 2013 at 11:38 am

    Just create a full quality MP4 and rename it to *.MOV

    It really doesn’t matter with H264 as a codec.

    MP4 or MOV is just a container.

  • Larry Asbell

    May 1, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    Have you tried the x264 codec?

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