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  • Graham Bernard

    March 29, 2019 at 4:20 am

    [Jeff David] “Thanks a million Graham?”

    Jeff, you’re very welcome. Nothing like finding a “complimentary” training video to augment the text written here. The Pointers I’ve written at great length, must’ve given you signposts to “move on”. Once you’ve prepared that MPEG2, either VBR or CBR, do use the BitRate Viewer to actually SEE the way your file fluctuates. If you do get issues with the DVD player you can pinpoint the areas needing a more focussed attention.

    * Grazie

    Video Content Creator and Potter
    PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
    Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX60HS Bridge

  • Jeff David

    March 29, 2019 at 8:49 pm

    Graham,

    You have absolutely been crucial and helped me work through roadblocks. I would have been stuck at several points if not for you. I can’t tell you how grateful I am that you share your knowledge with me.

    Yes – I was able to figure things out based on your tips in those cases where I still was confused. I try to do research on my own before posting here. Yes – I was only able to find that instructional video thanks to you. Your post prompted me to do a search and bingo! That additional training video I found is Hugh! It goes through the entire process including the DVD Architect which I recently got but have not used yet.

    Last night – I rendered the video to my hard drive – took about 10 hours. Tonight I’ll render the audio. I know the audio render does not take long.

    Like I said – I know how to burn the Blu-rays – but the DVD is much more involved. Funny – you would think it would be the opposite.

    Most of what I learned – I learned here – or on my own.

    I was not able to work on my project for about 6 months as I was tied up w a job I had.

    I’m going to send you a 100% discount so you can watch my completed video.

    Give me a few days and I’ll send it to you as thanks for your coaching!

    Jeff

    ps. Is Grazie your nickname? I see that listed at the bottom

    Lenovo quad core i7 16gb of ram, Windows 8.1 MS 13 64 bit Thumbnail is view out of the Olde North Church window where the signal lanterns were hung, as in, \”1 if by land 2 if by sea\” looking across the Charles River to the Charlestown Naval Yard where rebels awaited the signal April 18th, 1775.

  • Jeff David

    March 29, 2019 at 8:51 pm

    Graham,

    I just saw where I inadvertently put a ? mark after your name in my last post. That was accidental – I did not even know that was in there. My bad! Sorry!

    Lenovo quad core i7 16gb of ram, Windows 8.1 MS 13 64 bit Thumbnail is view out of the Olde North Church window where the signal lanterns were hung, as in, \”1 if by land 2 if by sea\” looking across the Charles River to the Charlestown Naval Yard where rebels awaited the signal April 18th, 1775.

  • Graham Bernard

    March 29, 2019 at 9:30 pm

    [Jeff David] “I just saw where I inadvertently put a ? mark after your name in my last post. That was accidental – I did not even know that was in there. My bad! Sorry!”

    I was given a very thick skin by my parents and a deep understanding of humans by my one and only Welsh Border collie-dog.

    OK, here’s something to ponder on: High Bitrates make for Larger file sizes. Yup, we got that. Any visual noise might require special treatment and here I’m referring to possible Grain or Low light video that had required a high GAIN setting. This in turn generates masses amounts of noise and all that noise, for the purposes of DVD production, has to be tamed if file size and BitRates need to be pulled back. I use small dabs of “Neat Video”. NV is my preferred tool to smooth out GRAINY footage. There are other ways to do this, but not being trained in the arts of programming, NV supplies a User Friedly GUI to allow to look good. NV is quite remarkable and over the years has saved me on more than dozen times.

    So, Jeff, to recap, the quantity and the granularity of the Visual Noise works against getting lean mean files sizes. Washing original footage through BitRate Viewer is a great tool to identify areas of your footage that are noisy. Once you know where they are you can take a surgical approach to make “quiet” that noise.

    As I said waaaay up there, this DVD Prep is fun. Well I think so. ????

    Oh yeah, your title to this Thread, “Re: Is it better to simply use dual layer dvd’s as opposed to messing around w bitrates?” I meant to ask you, is it?

    * Grazie

    Video Content Creator and Potter
    PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
    Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX60HS Bridge

  • Jeff David

    March 29, 2019 at 11:29 pm

    No – it’s better to use the bit rate approach. I never doubt the advice of those with vastly more experience than me – especially when I’ve never done that part of editing before.

    This thread had been extremely educational. Over the weekend – I will print this off and follow it closely as well as the training video.

    I will definitely run it through the bit-rate viewer. Yes – for sure.

    Like mentioned – next up – is for me to do the audio render and then follow the rest of your advice/instructions combined as well with the training video instructions.

    Lenovo quad core i7 16gb of ram, Windows 8.1 MS 13 64 bit Thumbnail is view out of the Olde North Church window where the signal lanterns were hung, as in, \”1 if by land 2 if by sea\” looking across the Charles River to the Charlestown Naval Yard where rebels awaited the signal April 18th, 1775.

  • Graham Bernard

    March 30, 2019 at 2:39 pm

    [Jeff David] “No – it’s better to use the bit rate approach.”

    My work here is done.????

    * Grazie

    Video Content Creator and Potter
    PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
    Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX60HS Bridge

  • Jeff David

    June 25, 2019 at 6:32 pm

    Graham – I’ve been unable to burn the dvd. I’m stuck. Would you be willing to help me by walking me through it? Yes – I have all of the instructions but but I’m missing something. I am willing to pay you for your help.

    Lenovo quad core i7 16gb of ram, Windows 8.1 MS 13 64 bit Thumbnail is view out of the Olde North Church window where the signal lanterns were hung, as in, \”1 if by land 2 if by sea\” looking across the Charles River to the Charlestown Naval Yard where rebels awaited the signal April 18th, 1775.

  • Graham Bernard

    June 26, 2019 at 2:02 am

    [Jeff David] “Graham – I’ve been unable to burn the dvd. I’m stuck.”

    Hi Jeff! As this Thread was primarily concerned with the options for utilising BitRate manipulation to achieve size reduction to fit onto one DVD might I suggest you start afresh with a new Thread on the topic of how to prepare a Video for burning to DVD.

    From my experience on the COW there are plenty of volunteers willing to assist.

    * Grazie

    Video Content Creator and Potter
    PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
    Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX60HS Bridge

  • Jeff David

    June 27, 2019 at 5:34 pm

    I had another thread already where I got all of the written instructions on burning a dvd but there is something I am not doing right.

    Lenovo quad core i7 16gb of ram, Windows 8.1 MS 13 64 bit Thumbnail is view out of the Olde North Church window where the signal lanterns were hung, as in, \”1 if by land 2 if by sea\” looking across the Charles River to the Charlestown Naval Yard where rebels awaited the signal April 18th, 1775.

  • Graham Bernard

    June 27, 2019 at 6:17 pm

    [Jeff David] “I had another thread already ….but there is something I am not doing right.”

    Hi Jeff! Give a link to that thread.

    * Grazie

    Video Content Creator and Potter
    PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
    Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX60HS Bridge

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