Is it Adobe or Premiere Pro?

[Oliver Peters]

Poorly veiled pitch to promote Resolve training.

– Oliver

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[Herb Sevush]

[Oliver Peters] “Poorly veiled pitch to promote Resolve training.”

But still there is more than a kernal of truth here. For “Indy” or student filmmakers, without a reliable cash flow, spending the money for Ppro is not something I would recommend either. It is also fair to be disappointed with their rate of development compared to Resolve, especially because the subscription paradigm was partially sold on the idea that it would fuel Ppro’s faster development. I’m neither a student nor an Indy, and my clients are totally Adobe, so for now I’m content to keep working with it, and sending in my bug and feature requests, but the video made reasonable arguments.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin\’ attached to nothin\’
\”Deciding the spine is the process of editing\” F. Bieberkopf

[Oliver Peters]

[Herb Sevush] “But still there is more than a kernal of truth here. For “Indy” or student filmmakers, without a reliable cash flow, spending the money for Ppro is not something I would recommend either”

Sure. But in that situation, free is always attractive. And Resolve is a solid editor, though not at the top of the heap in that regard. Of course, I’ll skip the part about them being able to stay current in the newest phone plan ☺

[Herb Sevush] “It is also fair to be disappointed with their rate of development compared to Resolve”

I wouldn’t agree with that. Updates have been steady with PPro. Given that they are now working with an established base, you can’t develop too quickly in such a way as to disrupt workflows. Same boat as Avid. So development is steady but incremental.

– Oliver

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[Eric Santiago]

[Oliver Peters] “Updates have been steady with PPro.”

But why is every upgrade breaking some basic workflows for most?
I have gone back one version almost every update.
Too much too list.

[Steve Connor]

[Oliver Peters] “Poorly veiled pitch to promote Resolve training.
“

Not true, he makes some excellent points, especially about, pricing, Adobe installation software and dynamic link.

If After Effects wasn’t so dominant I think Premiere’s user base would be considerably smaller and Resolve would be making a much bigger impact than it is.

[Oliver Peters]

[Eric Santiago] “But why is every upgrade breaking some basic workflows for most?”

I haven’t had the same experience.

– Oliver

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[Herb Sevush]

[Oliver Peters] “So development is steady but incremental.”

I don’t find it incremental so much as indiscriminate. They’re jumping around to whatever the latest fad is – HDR, 360VR, instead of fixing and improving the features they already have. And once they’ve brought out a feature they rarely improve it – Lumetri being a notable and welcomed exception. Take Warp Stabilizer – it’s useful, but there are any number of improvements they could make – a bounding box for example or the ability to keyframe into and out of the effect – but nope, they’ve brought it out and just like any non-subscription service, bringing out a new, sometimes half-baked feature seems to be more important than improving already existing features. I thought that this was something the subscription paradigm was supposed to address, but I see no difference between Ppro and any other NLE in that regard.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin\’ attached to nothin\’
\”Deciding the spine is the process of editing\” F. Bieberkopf

[Herb Sevush]

[Steve Connor] “f After Effects wasn’t so dominant I think Premiere’s user base would be considerably smaller and Resolve would be making a much bigger impact than it is.”

True, but that’s like saying if it wasn’t for the wheels my car wouldn’t go as fast. AE/Photoshop/Premiere – and I would add Audition to this list – is what you get for your $50 monthly, and I would agree that AE & Photoshop are the jewels in the crown, but you don’t get to slice and dice, this is the package under discussion. And this will be truer if/when the integration between them becomes tighter.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin\’ attached to nothin\’
\”Deciding the spine is the process of editing\” F. Bieberkopf

[Oliver Peters]

[Herb Sevush] “I don’t find it incremental so much as indiscriminate.”

I think it depends on the application you are focusing on. For example, with AE they have been in the process of streamlining and improving the performance of the app. This means a lot of under-the-hood changes. So a few versions ago some functionality was lost and they are slowly in the process of adding that back in. The alternative is Apple’s “throw the baby out with the bathwater” approach, which is something neither Adobe nor Avid can afford to do.

Another example is Lightroom. The betting crowd is on Lightroom CC eventually replacing Lightroom Classic entirely. So we are going through a transition until the complete switch is feasible and works for the customer base.

[Herb Sevush] “bringing out a new, sometimes half-baked feature seems to be more important than improving already existing features.”

I think that’s true of every application. There are tons of things in X that haven’t changed much (flaws and all) since the first version. From what I can tell, only Avid is actually on a path of feature “clean-up” with its monthly Media Composer updates.

– Oliver

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[Oliver Peters]

[Steve Connor] “Not true, he makes some excellent points, especially about, pricing, Adobe installation software and dynamic link.
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Look at the owner of the page and video. It’s a color-correction online training resource.

– Oliver

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