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  • Is FCPX on iOS pointless?

    Posted by Oliver Peters on July 14, 2020 at 12:55 pm

    If you look at LumaFusion 2.3, it would seem like LumaTouch has long since beaten Apple to the punch. I’m not sure what FCPX would bring to the table on an iPad.

    https://youtu.be/D7TyKpfORc8

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

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    Oliver Peters replied 4 years, 6 months ago 8 Members · 19 Replies
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  • Craig Seeman

    July 14, 2020 at 1:48 pm

    Interesting that the opposite will soon be possible. With Big Sur on Apple Silicon, LumaFusion will run on Macs. It would seem that LumaFusion may become an alternative to FCPX over time.

  • Oliver Peters

    July 14, 2020 at 7:41 pm
  • Tony West

    July 14, 2020 at 8:56 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “I’m not sure what FCPX would bring to the table on an iPad.”

    I’m not sure why anyone would want to edit on an iPad if they had a laptop. Seems cumbersome to me.

    If you liked X and and wanted to edit on an iPad what’s the upside to switching to that software?

  • Joe Marler

    July 15, 2020 at 1:14 pm

    [Craig Seeman] ” With Big Sur on Apple Silicon, LumaFusion will run on Macs. It would seem that LumaFusion may become an alternative to FCPX over time…”

    Besides this, it is likely some smaller Apple Silicon MacBooks will be roughly the size and weight of a 12.9″ iPad Pro with Magic Keyboard. They will probably have greatly improved battery life vs any previous x86 MacBook. In essence you will have an iPad-size package except it will run MacOS and real FCPX, not some watered-down future version crammed into iOS.

    And as you said that Apple Silicon MacBook will *also* run LumaFusion and all other iOS apps without alteration.

    Plus it will be straightforward for developers of high-end iPad apps like LumaFusion to use XCode tools to rapidly tailor those iPad apps for the MacOS environment. This was shown during the last WWDC.

    Oliver’s question might also include: “Is iMovie on MacOS pointless?” A tailored MacOS version of LumaFusion for Apple Silicon could easily be produced, largely maintain source code commonality with the iOS version, and would have far greater capability than iMovie. LumaFusion is certainly on a much more rapid development track than iMovie.

  • Oliver Peters

    July 15, 2020 at 1:22 pm

    [Tony West] “I’m not sure why anyone would want to edit on an iPad if they had a laptop.”

    I would tend to agree, but not everyone owns a laptop. There are quite a few people who have a desktop for home/office and a tablet for when they are away from that system. A decked out iPad Pro is cheaper than a MacBook Pro. Battery life is also better with an iPad Pro. Then there’s the touch/Pencil interface, which some will prefer.

    Another example is Dan Lebental’s TouchEdit app. He’s a noted feature film editor who primarily uses Media Composer, which runs perfectly fine on a laptop. Yet he decided to develop an iPad app that he would use when away from his standard system. Unfortunately development lagged and LumaFusion has become the better (known as well as functional) NLE.

    I guess it’s the same sort of question as, “Why would anyone shoot photos and videos with an iPhone when they could do it with a ‘real’ camera?” Preference and horses for courses.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Oliver Peters

    July 15, 2020 at 1:25 pm

    [Joe Marler] “A tailored MacOS version of LumaFusion for Apple Silicon could easily be produced, largely maintain source code commonality with the iOS version, and would have far greater capability than iMovie.”

    Along those lines, there’s also Adobe Rush, with both iPadOS and desktop versions. Seems those could also be brought into direct alignment.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Tony West

    July 15, 2020 at 2:40 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “There are quite a few people who have a desktop for home/office and a tablet for when they are away “

    Yes, I could see prepping my footage on an iPad on the plane on the way back but I would want to prep in the the app that matched the NLE I was going to finish in. If I’m going to finish in X I would use X on the pad. I guess what I’m asking is, what is the advantage of using LumaFusion to prep if I’m going to finish in X? Or any other NLE to finish?

  • Oliver Peters

    July 15, 2020 at 3:08 pm

    [Tony West] “I guess what I’m asking is, what is the advantage of using LumaFusion to prep if I’m going to finish in X? Or any other NLE to finish?”

    Since there is an FCPXML interchange path, you could start in LF and finish in FCPX. Of course, if there were an iPadOS version of FCPX, then it becomes a toss-up. There are some nice features in LF, FWIW. The add’l mini-timeline and an audio mixer are nice features that FCPX lacks.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Joe Marler

    July 15, 2020 at 3:12 pm

    [Tony West] “I could see prepping my footage on an iPad on the plane on the way back but I would want to prep in the the app that matched the NLE I was going to finish in.”

    What if the Apple Silicon MacBook was the same size and weight as an 12.9″ iPad Pro + keyboard, had 2TB SSD, faster GPU, all-day battery life, plus had actual Thunderbolt ports and ran FCPX (plus all iOS apps)? It’s not out of the question something like that could be released this year.

  • Tony West

    July 15, 2020 at 5:01 pm

    [Joe Marler] “What if the Apple Silicon MacBook was the same size and weight as an 12.9″ iPad Pro + keyboard, had 2TB SSD, faster GPU,”

    Yes, I personally would rather use that any day of the week.

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