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Is anyone actually using FCPX?
Posted by Taron Ghazaryan on June 26, 2011 at 4:31 amI know some people here are asking questions about FCPX meaning they’re using it. I tried to edit a small project in it and I regret it. What would have taken me 4 hours to do is taking me over 2 days. Simple tasks that were a keyboard shortcut away are now taking forever to do. A cut on multiple tracks, crossfades, multicam switching, organizing clips, layering, etc..
So my question is. Do any of you guys see yourself using this product?
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Craig Seeman
June 26, 2011 at 5:08 amI’ll be using it professionally. It takes time to learn though. Within its limited features it’s quite powerful. Don’t hand it something outside it’s current feature set and understand it’s going to take time for the editor to get up to speed.
I’d use it for jobs with AVCHD and mixed sources, file delivery, with enough lead turnaround time that I can make frequent looks at manuals and tutorials if I bump into an issue.
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Tony Silanskas
June 26, 2011 at 7:15 amI’m with Craig. And am taking a shot with a small project next week. Did some personal stuff this weekend to learn and it’s all slowly making sense in a good way. I will say, the organizing of large projects should become much much easier.
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David Battistella
June 26, 2011 at 7:45 amI will use it on at this point in time after determining the following factors:
1. Does this job require me going outside of FCPX ?
If I have to hand the sound or picture over to a sound house or post house then I have to use FCS, Avid or Adobe. If lightworks was on a MAC I might use that.
If I choose to keep a specific project within FCP-X tool set then I will use that.
I like FCPx because I like how quickly shots can be assembled and edited. Sure, it took a day to get used to but like any software it acvomplishes a specific task.
I’m going to use it whenever I can because I believe that within 12 months, many people will have implemented it after Apple answers a few questions.
To some the very fact that the software looks like imovie offends their sensibility as a professional. I try not to get offended by those things. A couple of months ago I put iMovie on my phone and made two little films. Not because I wanted to see what it was like. I’m not so invested in any software that my life and death depends on it because I would never want the stress that comes when a company makes a change the way Apple did.
The one thing I firmly believe is that Apple should provide a free way to migrate older projects into the new software. I completely recognize that need from an archival perspective. That move was irresponsible to the customer base.
Nothing is certain. Ever. A lot of people are reacting towards apple they way they might after a relationship breakup. They feel cheated after being emotionally
invested.But an investment in apple is a business relationship, not a life partner relationship (although many editors spend more tome with their software than their spouse).
FCPX is a business decision. Emotion can not enter to deeply into it.
Heres how I see it. For 300 dollars I can try a new app by apple. If it doesn’t work out it was three hundred bucks and I find the solution I need.
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Everest Mokaeff
June 26, 2011 at 11:33 amI’m not gonna use it in full-circle production for there is no way to communicate with other participants: VFX, Sound, Grading. Furthermore, fcpx broke traditional editorial workflow and legit question is Why industry should follow software lead while it should be the other way around. Maybe this is a good idea for home studio to collate five to ten videos per year into ‘events’. For a production company this approach looks silly to say the least. I’m looking for developments in this story though I’m leaning towards avid/davinci solution.
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Jeremy Garchow
June 26, 2011 at 1:30 pm[Tony Silanskas] “I will say, the organizing of large projects should become much much easier.”
That’s how I see it too. I had actually been using Fcp7 with a keyword solution for some time. I had p2flow as a metadata organizer that sent all the info to FCP columns. The Fcp7 interface made searching more difficult. FCPX is going to be a lot easier. Everyone seems to be complaining about a feature I’m really exited for and will use all the time. I don’t think people can really grasp what’s going on.
I still can’t use it on real jobs yet, though. I am sure that will come with time. If not then I guess we move on. For now we sit tight.
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Hector Berrebi
June 26, 2011 at 1:39 pmwe used it in our studio on an Internet tapeless project
the keyer is superb and very real-timewe are still learning it, from manual and forums
we’re about to start offering a fast courses on FCPX
so spending a lot of time with itwhich is not helping me like it more
but i’m starting to accept it. somewhat…
hector
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Simon Ubsdell
June 26, 2011 at 3:10 pmIf it had OMF support I’d start using it straight away on smaller jobs – without OMF I can’t even think of doing that. And I wouldn’t want to think about grading with the obnoxious Color Board so I’d probably export and grade in Color as I used to. But I’m not doing anything with it until (or if) I get a way to export my audio to ProTools.
That said, having finally read through the entire manual in some detail I have to say I get what they are trying to do and I like it. Loads of stuff doesn’t work properly in ways that it’s hard to guess which would make serious work a bit hairy. This really is a beta version in all but name and price! It galls me more than I can say that I had to pay Apple to test it for them.
But the underlying editing concepts which have taken such flak over here on this forum are really interesting and potentially powerful. And keyword organization is a genuinely interesting breakthrough in project management. There’s so much that they need to get right from some really basic standpoints that I can’t help thinking it will be a long while before they roll it all out, if they ever do. Most of all they need to start getting away from the underling iMovie architecture which is certainly where the organization nonsense (Projects in particular) has derived from along with pretty much everything else.
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Craig Seeman
June 26, 2011 at 3:33 pmWhen Apple eventually hooks this into a server and shared storage this is going to be very powerful for facility event, media, etc. management. Sometimes I have to wonder why professionals don’t see this potential in FCPX.
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Mike Guidotti
June 26, 2011 at 4:03 pmAs of now scuttlebutt is that shared storage is not in the future for this program. It’s a single workstation single editor application from the roots of it’s design.
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Craig Seeman
June 26, 2011 at 4:18 pm[Simon Ubsdell] “There’s so much that they need to get right from some really basic standpoints that I can’t help thinking it will be a long while before they roll it all out, if they ever do.”
Apple has already told various journalists that it will be very fast. That’s the point of App Store distribution vs disk and ship for major upgrades. First upgrade should be in about 4 months from what I’ve read. Of course it might be nice to know what features where coming first but most developers don’t like doing that since things can happen and feature priorities can change.
[Simon Ubsdell] “Loads of stuff doesn’t work properly in ways that it’s hard to guess which would make serious work a bit hairy.”
I’m finding everything works so far. It’s just that it’s very incomplete. I’d really like to know what you’re finding doesn’t work but that post is better suited to FCPX Techniques forum.
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