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  • Vince Becquiot

    April 12, 2009 at 1:28 am

    We are actually using the AJA Xena to playback to SDI to a Panasonic HD monitor. I was told by AJA themselves that they currently do not support the 30 PN format, a very popular format for non broadcast applications.

    Vince Becquiot

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

  • Gary Adcock

    April 12, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    [Vince Becquiot] ” was told by AJA themselves that they currently do not support the 30 PN format, a very popular format for non broadcast applications. “

    Thats because it is not video. AJA makes VIDEO CARDS not graphics cards.

    SMPTE rules say that the 720 format needs to have 59.94/ 60 frames- 30pn does not conform any more than 720p24 does.

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows

    Inside look at the IoHD
    https://library.creativecow.net/articles/adcock_gary/AJAIOHD.php

  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 12, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    [Vince Becquiot] “We are actually using the AJA Xena to playback to SDI to a Panasonic HD monitor. “

    Hmm, well I have no experience with a Xena, but 30pN is fully supported with the Kona/Mac platform. Like Gary alluded to, when played back, the Kona/FCP add 2:2 pulldown to conform to SMPTE 720p59.94.

    Jeremy

  • Vince Becquiot

    April 12, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    Gary, my post was in the spirit of requests posted above, and less of “expectation”.

    That being said, as you know 30pN will cut your precious recording space nearly in half on a SS card, and while I know it is no SMPTE standard, it is still a video format used by many solid state shooters. We just have no way to play back a native timeline through SDI either to tape or for preview.

    Vince Becquiot

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

  • Vince Becquiot

    April 12, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    It does show the correct pulldown on the monitor itself, but the image cuts off and appears scrambled 3/4 of the way on the right side and bottom.

    Vince Becquiot

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

  • Gary Adcock

    April 12, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    [Vince Becquiot] “It does show the correct pulldown on the monitor itself, but the image cuts off and appears scrambled 3/4 of the way on the right side and bottom. “

    then the firmware is not correct on your board.

    As jeremy said – the card will add the correct pulldown.

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows

    Inside look at the IoHD
    https://library.creativecow.net/articles/adcock_gary/AJAIOHD.php

  • Vince Becquiot

    April 12, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    Gary,

    I do have the latest firmware. And while it does add the correct pulldown, I think the card has issues with the format itself. The exact same thing happens on the BM cards, and AJA’s answer was that 30pN is not supported at this time.

    I certainly would love to find work around for this issue, but I spent hours trying. We are currently using DVI on a second Quadro FX card to output to an Panasonic LH 1760, but we have a slight audio delay due to processing (I guess this could be solved by a delay unit), as well as issues with frame aspect ratio.

    Due to the fact the the monitor is actually 16:10, the footage get stretched vertically, and not way to keep the Quadro FX in non scale 1280×768, it just goes back to its default scaling setting.

    Vince Becquiot

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 12, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    [Vince Becquiot] “I do have the latest firmware. And while it does add the correct pulldown, I think the card has issues with the format itself. The exact same thing happens on the BM cards, and AJA’s answer was that 30pN is not supported at this time. “

    Is this from Premiere? What OS/system are you on?

    Jeremy

  • Vince Becquiot

    April 13, 2009 at 4:23 am

    CS3 on XP.

    Vince Becquiot

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 13, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    [Vince Becquiot] “CS3 on XP. “

    Have you tried Machina?

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