Is a capture card useless in this case?

[Harm Millaard]

Same response: Your $ 19 thoughts were right on the mark.

Harm Millaard

[Aanarav Sareen]

You answered your own question. A capture card is primarily useless unless your system is extremely slow.

[Tom Maloney]

As far as capturing you might be correct, then comes editing, for instance color correcting and slow motion = Render. I have a Matrox card, greatly helps with rendering

Tom

[George Socka]

If your source is analogue – say vhs, Beta, hi8 then you need some way to get that in. And you said you want to capture from anywhere. IEEE1394 only captures from DV type sources. For the rest you need a capture card.

[Phoenix Studios]

Thanks all, this seems like a great forum (smart people, fast replies) so I think I will hang out here…
Please say more about the Render part. I don’t see how the Snazzi.Avio card is helping me there either. There is a plugin for PPRO1.5 that is “export from timeline.” But it seems not to work, well, it renders to a file called CustomSDK.avi but the file is not saved anywhere that I can find. Snazzi support is unresponsive re: new plugins or explaination of plugins functions. (they also do not work with V2 of ppro, but neither does Canopus Procoder). I was assuming that the extra hardware would help with rendering, but can’t see how now. The Snazzi card is “described” here: https://www.snazzi.com/AvioPro.asp

I’m feeling a bit ripped off now, as I already had a firewire port in the Audigy card and all my cams can do analog to digital conversions…. but thanks all!!!! hardware is scarce here in nepal, and this was the only thing available that purported to work with premiere.
jigs

[Tim Kolb]

Your capture card allows you to capture analog, just as mentioned earlier in the thread.

If you only plan on capturing DV, then yes, a FireWire card is what you need.

As far as rendering goes, that would be helped with a big display card. You have a big consumer display card, but the GeForce series isn’t designed for Open GL support for After Effects and GPU effects in Ppro. You would need to move to a Quadro series for that.

ProCoder is about as clean a transcoder as there is available. It’s fast and utilizes hyper-threading, though it does not take advantage of dual processors yet.

TimK,

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[Phoenix Studios]

Thanks Tim, but Geoforce is about as big as it gets in this country, I’ll look into importing something better…but in the meantime, can u (or anyone) parse this readme from the Snazzi plugin, it seems it does a render from the timeline to a TV (either from composite or svideo outs I guess), I just can’t figure it out. If this is true, I guess I could route the signal to one of my cam monitors as input…I think I did that once to tape a tv show once…

Anyway, the plugin does do a render in 1/10 the time then premiere does it, now I just need to see where it’s going!

As for this statement: isn’t designed for Open GL support for After Effects and GPU effects in Ppro,can u translate to dumbo language? I know what each term means (and I thought GeoForce’s new driver supported OpenGL) but I can’t parse the sentance.

Anyway, here is the mysterious readme on that plugin I mentioned:

Snazzi* AVIO Timeline Plug-in for Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5.

Snazzi AVIO Timeline Plug-in( Build 1.0.6 ) Beta Release
Copyright (c) 2000-2004 V One Multimedia Pte. Ltd.
All Rights Reserved

V One Multimedia Pte Ltd
Blk 54 Kallang Bahru # 02-04,
Singapore 339336

E-mail: support@vonemm.com
WWW: https://www.vonemm.com

05 April, 2005

Table of Contents
—————–

1. Main Features:
2. How to Install:
3. How to use:
4. System Requirement:
5. Problems Fix in this build:
6. Known issues

Main Features:
————–
– WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) that would let you see AP Pro timeline work directly on TV.
– Transmit Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 Timeline through Snazzi AVIO capture card.
– Real time Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 timeline Preview on TV.

How to Install:
—————
– Install Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5.
– Install Snazzi AVIO with drivers.
– Install Snazzi AVIO Timline Plug-in for Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5.

How to Use:
———–
– Run Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5.
– Create or select previous project under “Snazzi* AVIO RT Playback” editing mode.
– Select desired clip on Timline to transmit.
– Start Playback of editing mode and preview on TV would be start automatically.

System Requirement:
——————-
Minimum system requirement:
– P4 2.4 Ghz processor
– 512 MB of DDR RAM.
– 5600-RPM Hard Drive
– Win XP.

Recommended System configuration:
———————————
– P4 3.0 Ghz processor
– 1 GB of DDr RAM.
– 7200-RPM Hard Drive
– Win XP.

[Phoenix Studios]

Okay, I figured out the timeline plugin, it does output on the composite/svideo ports of the capture card, and running that into one cam, I can see the results on the display (I guess I should get a real monitor someday, but I already have 3 LCD displays on my desk). So this does what for me – gives me the ability to see renders almost realtime (it’s really fast) of complicated effects without waiting for a premiere render (so so slow). Is that about right? I mean ya can’t capture that render as a clip; it’s going to the camera anyway, but that would be dumb yes, as it’s going to the cam in analog right? Okay, I’ll stop thinking so much. At least I think I found a use for this card besides the obvious and seldom capture of analog sources, which I think I could have done with my camera anyway. So this is just a render card for premiere 1.5, and not much else. It would be nice if I could get this to work in AE, but I doubt there is a chance of that unless the plugin API is the same….
thanks all!