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  • Is 17 mbs bitrate too low for BD?

    Posted by Chris Babbitt on November 22, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    I have a 3-hour program that I want to fit on a single 25gb Blu-Ray. In order to do it, I will need to encode at 16.8 avg. data rate (MP2). Will that give me decent quality, or am I wasting my time? Dual layer is too expensive and Compressor won’t do H.264 for BD.

    Eric Pautsch replied 15 years, 5 months ago 6 Members · 23 Replies
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  • Walter Biscardi

    November 22, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    That’s pretty low for sure. Would go for the DL BluRay quite honestly.

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  • Rafael Amador

    November 22, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    I agree with Walter.
    For an H264 could be OK, but very low for MPEG-2.
    On a HD MPEG-2, that would yield similar quality than a 3Mbps data-rate on an DVD.
    rafael

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  • Eric Pautsch

    November 23, 2010 at 1:02 am

    An Avg of 17 mb/s is fine. You can also set a peak setting as well in case your footage needs it. However, it also depends on the encoder you use and how well your source file is. Ive authored titles with a 14 mb/s avg and they look great…then again, I’ve never used Compressor for BD work. Do a test and see.

    Lot of titles done with bitrates lower than that. Here’s a site which list some averages:

    https://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-movies-north-america/3338-blu-ray-movie-bitrates-here.html

  • Joseph Bradley

    November 23, 2010 at 1:53 am

    H-264 is usually used with MPeg4 not MPeg2. I’ve done several outputs using MPeg4 with H-264 and it looked great. Of course that depends on how good the footage was on import. I use FCP to output the footage so you don’t need to use compressor.

  • Rafael Amador

    November 23, 2010 at 8:55 am

    [Joseph Bradley] “H-264 is usually used with MPeg4 not MPeg2. I’ve done several outputs using MPeg4 with H-264 and it looked great. Of course that depends on how good the footage was on import. I use FCP to output the footage so you don’t need to use compressor.”
    The question is not about MP4/H264.
    The question is about MPEG-2.
    How will look a 1080 MPEG-2 at 17Mbps?
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Chris Babbitt

    November 23, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    So, if you’re not using Compressor, you must be using Quicktime to do the encoding, and neither Quicktime nor Compressor will make a blu-ray compatible H.264 file. So, what’s your secret, Joseph?

  • Steve Connor

    November 23, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    Why won’t compressor make a BluRay compatible file? I’ve made a few that have been used in Adobe Encore with no problems at all

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  • Chris Babbitt

    November 23, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    Compressor only does Mp2 Blu-Ray files.

  • Steve Connor

    November 23, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    It does do h264 for Blu-ray, certainly the latest version does at least. I know because I’ve done it numerous times

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  • Steve Connor

    November 23, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    Steve Connor
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