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iPhone 4S new sensor can take 4K at 24p.FCPX can handle 4K.Imagine the possibilities.
Herb Sevush replied 14 years, 10 months ago 22 Members · 67 Replies
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Craig Seeman
October 22, 2011 at 2:26 pm[kim krause] “maybe some of those old farts will start to think of fcpx on a mac mini as a real editing system”
FCP7 on Mini thought but I’d imagine FCPX when the time comes but does show you how capable the i7 MacMini with Thunderbolt can be.
Mac Mini for pro video editing: a field report from Guatemala
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Herb Sevush
October 22, 2011 at 2:38 pmIf you read the article the shots were probably taken with the older iPhone, not the 4S. So my statement still stands – the 4s changes nothing.
Oliver Stone used 8mm shots in JFK, did this lead to 8mm film as a new viable production standard in Hollywood? The argument that the 4S is now somehow a viable alternative production camera is absurd.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Herb Sevush
October 22, 2011 at 2:53 pm[kim krause] “finally i have been acknowledged…”
You have often been acknowledged, just seldom agreed with.
[kim krause] “maybe some of those old farts will start to think of fcpx on a mac mini as a real editing system with an iPad controlling everything”
I have no doubt that it’s a real editing system, it’s just not one that I would ever want to use. There are many editing systems that people can make money with, it’s just that their workflows are simpler than mine. And that doesn’t mean they couldn’t cut more complex stuff, it just means that they can’t cut it as quickly and easily. A good cook can dice an onion with a cleaver, it’s still not the ideal tool for the job.
[kim krause] “especially in light of the fact that apple is slowly moving away from towers and formerly high end computers…..the latest iPad i s way more powerful than the best laptop of 6 years ago and the latest laptops blow away any desktop from just 2 years back”
And the latest desktops still blow away the laptops and ipads. So why, if I’m investing my money today, would I choose an Ipad to do a desktops job – especially when I work at a desk? Call me crazy but I don’t work in the bush, on a train, or at the local coffee shop and I have no desire to do so. In my cozy studio I have plenty of room for a workstation and multiple monitors, now why on earth would I want to edit with an Ipad?
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Craig Seeman
October 22, 2011 at 2:54 pm[Herb Sevush] “the 4s changes nothing. “
Actually may make using shots from it features more likely (not common but more likely). If 4 was OK 4S is certainly better.
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Herb Sevush
October 22, 2011 at 3:05 pm[Craig Seeman] “Actually may make using shots from it features more likely (not common but more likely). If 4 was OK 4S is certainly better.”
Maybe, but I’d argue that if your using shots from an Iphone your looking for an immediate “real life” feel in which resolution and sharpness are not the issue.
Really Craig, this argument is ridiculous. The advantage of using any cell phone for video is the fact that you always have the phone with you, it enables you to get shots that you would otherwise miss. Video Production is not haphazard, your always planning to get the shots, your choosing to take a camera with you – now why under those circumstances would you choose to take a 4s over a 5d, other than poverty. And this discussion was about professional use of the 4s, not what camera high school students might make a movie with.
I’m sure that producers will grab b-roll shots with their Iphones on occasion – but I doubt that they wouldn’t have taken the shots with my 3G, or any other cell phone camera they had with them. The fact that the 4s has better imaging is, well, better – I’m glad I’ll have access to it when I upgrade my Iphone. But it’s not revolutionary in any way, and that claim was what started this whole thread
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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David Cherniack
October 22, 2011 at 6:37 pm[Herb Sevush] “Really Craig, this argument is ridiculous”
Has that ever stopped Craig? C’mon Herb, he loves it. 🙂
David
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Steve Connor
October 22, 2011 at 7:03 pmHas anyone in this thread actually suggested you could use an iPhone as their primary camera?
“My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”
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Herb Sevush
October 22, 2011 at 7:12 pm[Steve Connor] “Has anyone in this thread actually suggested you could use an iPhone as their primary camera?”
This thread started with a post that contained the following line
“Apple has their own Image Processing Engine on the new iPhone. Imagine the possibilities for journalists. Everything just changed in post.”
So yes, believe it or not, unless you think journalists typically carry multiple cameras, I would say more than one person has implied that you could use the Iphone as a primary camera.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Steve Connor
October 22, 2011 at 8:08 pmI didn’t think he was being serious, but that’s just my read!
“My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”
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Herb Sevush
October 22, 2011 at 8:12 pm[Steve Connor] “I didn’t think he was being serious, but that’s just my read!”
Then why wouldn’t he acknowledge the joke. And why did others, like Kim Krause and Craig Seeman double down on it. I figure Craig is half joking, he seems a bit too smart to be that dumb, but I’ll agree this whole thread is ridiculous.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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