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iPhone 4S new sensor can take 4K at 24p.FCPX can handle 4K.Imagine the possibilities.
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None of you will ever actually use it for an “A” camera anyway, so point made solely by omission.
[FULL DISCLOSURE] I’m in need for an upgrade so I will be getting the 4S and I will even be using its video/photo capabilities when I’m just shooting little fun things. It won’t be replacing my proper video camera setup, so dream on.
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I guess the amateur sex sites are going to get better footage.
hmmm…Just realized what the X stands for…
The bitten fruit strikes again, eh? Shoot in the field and stabilize it with FCPXXX!
-Power to the people, MOFOS!
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[David Lawrence] “I won’t complain when my iPhone shoots 1080p video but I wouldn’t expect to use it as a substitute for a real camera on a job. It’s about appropriateness to the job at hand. I think we all agree on that.”
Absolutely.
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Herb,
A week ago, I was shooting in a hotel gig – typical Spyder Pod at the back of the room with a 24x lens tracking back and forth on a 4 person panel. I realized that we’d be getting MUCH better video if I could have rigged 4 iPod touches w/video on desk stands, one on the table in front of each presenter, and simply switched them via WiFi.
We didn’t because we’re still all still stuck in thinking that what we did 10 years ago is STILL the best way to do things today. But it’s not. Video Village is down from 5 large road cases to 3 laptops. The images were being Flash encoded and sent via telco to an uplink sight in SF, and beamed to the world in real time.
And the audio was a FOH feed duplexed at the laptop so your “XLR at the camera” obsession is also stuck in past. (Haven’t you noticed all the double-system DSLR shooters who work around on-camera audio issues every day?)
You may want to cling to the idea that your way is the ONLY way to get the job done right, but some of us have learned that if we can’t at least look beyond our own personal mental limitations, we’ll never see any path to improvement.
For what it’s worth.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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Bill –
That sounds like a very innovative solution to your production problem.
My comments were in reaction to someone suggesting that increasing the pixel count in the 4s was in some way revolutionary. Apparently it isn’t or you would have suggested using 4 Iphones. And if you wanted to use 4 Iphones to shoot your conference, wouldn’t 4 Androids work as well?
I am very familiar with double system DSLR usage. Coming as I do from a 16mm background the freedom of double system shooting is something I greatly enjoy. My comments about lack of XLR inputs was meant to show that merely having a high pixel count on your Iphone was insufficient to make it a great production camera. Once you have to bother getting a Zoom H4N don’t you think a T2i is a more reasonable choice than your phone?
“You may want to cling to the idea that your way is the ONLY way to get the job done right, but some of us have learned that if we can’t at least look beyond our own personal mental limitations, we’ll never see any path to improvement.”
If I could look beyond my mental limitations then they wouldn’t be limitations, would they?
Herb Sevush
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[Bill Davis] A week ago, I was shooting in a hotel gig – typical Spyder Pod at the back of the room with a 24x lens tracking back and forth on a 4 person panel. I realized that we’d be getting MUCH better video if I could have rigged 4 iPod touches w/video on desk stands, one on the table in front of each presenter, and simply switched them via WiFi.
Interesting. So will you be using this setup on your next similar project?
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Fine, Marvin,
Let’s extrapolate your brilliant concept into other areas…
The fine restaurant CHEF is the pinnacle of the culinary arts. So to anyone who wants to learn to cook elegantly and with createive flair, we MUST discourage them. Because we understand that only those with special training and the “professional” tag are worthy of our respect.
We should fight against the idea that millions of people in millions of kitchens, with lowly electric ranges will ever be able to satisfactorily meet our standard of what a “good cook” must be. Rather, we must cling to the idea that only our “Viking Industrial Range Equipped Chefs” can hope to advance the culinary arts. Only these professionals will have access to the finest ingredients, the freshest produce, and the spices from far flung and exotic places – as well as the “high level” skills required in order to elevate food to a higher plane.
Kinda sounds like “stuck in the past” thinking, doesn’t it? Yet precisely the same thinking keeps showing up over and over and over again in these discussions regarding the production of video content.
Escoffier’s day is PAST. Food preparation moved out of the “priestly” class. It caught fire around the “Joy of Cooking” era, and a few decades later, a “foodie” was anyone who wanted to take the time to dedicate their brain to elevating food preparation. The “tools” were similarly democratized. Need a “mandoline slicer” to make your own pasta? No problem. If you can’t find one in a local store, the internet has a thousand places ready to ship you one overnight. Need to secure leeks in preference to onions? Difficult yesterday, trivial today. Heck, in today’s world even if you want some total specialty item, say habanero chilis, elk sausage, or some kimchi – Fed Ex is ready to put it on your doorstep before 8am tomorrow.
Of course there are still great chefs in the “professional class.” but where once there were a few of them working in major cities and royal palaces, today every medium sized city has a hundred (if not a thousand) people who qualify for the title of Chef. And if you want to re-create their work in your own kitchen, or even do something at the same level given talent and creativity – you can – where before you couldn’t.
This IS the change in the video industry these days.
Let me say it again. ANYONE who wants to learn to be a good cook can do so today with nearly no barriers to participation.
Exactly the same as with video production for the first time in human history.
And everything will change in our industry because of it.
Period.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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Pretty cool, but not replacing a DSLR or video camera anytime soon.
Even if it does, nothing in the iPhone manual tells you about good composition, lighting, framing, focus control, camera moves, etc. That still counts for something in video production right?
Video professionals have nothing to worry about, the sky is not falling.
Cinematographer – Editor – Motion Graphics Artist – Colorist
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hey gerald ..get ready to have your head chewed off by a bunch of old farts who only see fcpx as a toy. awhile ago i was looking into my crystal ball and imagining where things might be a year or so from now. i totally agree with you that the new iPhone is cool and when they stick the guts of that thing into the new iPad with retina display we are gonna see something truly amazing. imagine all your media stored in the cloud using just and iPad to access it…i’m seldom wrong about my future predictions but i sure have a way of pissing off the so called pros in our industry! hahahaha
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[Steve Connor] “I do believe Gerald was not being entirely serious.”
BINGO!
I’m a bit surprised some people here can’t determine the difference.
Quobetah
New=Better
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