iPhone 4S new sensor can take 4K at 24p.FCPX can handle 4K.Imagine the possibilities.

[Craig Seeman]

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[Mark Bein]

[Marvin Holdman] “putting news media in the hands of the untrained is poor idea socially”

Is this an official statement from the chinese government?

[Andy Neil]

As a former news man, I don’t really see a problem with cameras in the hands of more people. Sure quality of picture goes down, but also more news actually gets captured on video because eye witnesses now can record what’s happening.

The current state of news is harmed more by the existence of 24 hour news channels (which work on a 15 minute news cycle), and the notion that breaking news is the only news which leads to stories being reported wholesale from unconfirmed sources.

Andy

https://www.timesavertutorials.com

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Marvin Holdman] “but in the end putting news media in the hands of the untrained is poor idea socially.”

But when news outlets are forcing journalists to shoot, mic, light, edit, drive to, research, upload, archive and manage their own stories without any help, can you really blame the journalist for wanting tools that are “all-in-one”? They have to be an “all-in-one” themselves. I wonder if they teach that in school these days.

How did we get from 4k to journalism anyway? 🙂

[David Roth weiss]

[Herb Sevush] “I wasn’t nit picking the phone, I was nit picking the previous comment that the camera in the phone was going to revolutionize video production.”

You certainly would not be off base to nit pick the iPhone’s telephonic capabilities. Given AT&Ts long history of dropped calls and the well known issues with the iPhone 4’s touchy antenna, customer satisfaction with the actual phone part of the phone is the lowest in the industry.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.com

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[Marvin Holdman]

Sorry all, feeling a bit ranty today. Someone just handed us a crap load of poorly shot phone video and ask us to “make it look professional”. Gotta love the clients high school nephew in his first TV production class.

Apologies to all in the journalism field. The election year is already starting to wear thin.

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[Bill Davis]

Craig,

Don’t bother dude.

Herb sees the word “APPLE” and the “red mist of push-back” descends upon him. It’s emotional.

From the un-retouched stills Apple posted today and the exemplar video shown at the same time- it’s clear you cannot do with the iPhone 4s what a person can accomplish with a six figure video configuration and a crew of 10. Further, having some enhanced video capabilities like better image resolution, better lens performance in low light, and iOS 5’s faster “in the moment” camera access capabilities are all nice, but I guess Herb is correct, they don’t really make the iPhone a mini Thompson Viper for $299, now do they?

Heck, if they they could just build a “world phone” into the Viper, carve that down to a few ounces and sell the result at sub-$300 … then we could all be insanely happy, no?

“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor

[Herb Sevush]

Oh poor Bill, as usual you’ve got everything ass backwards.

I own an Iphone. I like it a lot. I own many apple devices beyond the Mac Pro’s I use for business. I think the Ipod is one of the greatest inventions of all time.

It’s not Apple that irritates me, it’s their acolytes that make we want to retch.

My remarks were all addressed to Gerald’s assertions that the camera aspect of the 4S is a game changer in any way or form. It isn’t.

You can’t have a good camera with a shitty lens, no matter what you have going on under the hood. The Iphone camera is fine but it’s not what I take to Storm King when I want to take some serious pix. It’s just a point and shoot with a crappy lens that allows you to upload your third rate photos to the web. Great for baby pics for grandma and girls nite out at the bar sort of stuff. And now apparently you can take these pic’s in lower light. Most of these photos would be improved by being taken in no light whatsoever.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions

[David Lawrence]

[Bill Davis] “From the un-retouched stills Apple posted today and the exemplar video shown at the same time- it’s clear you cannot do with the iPhone 4s what a person can accomplish with a six figure video configuration and a crew of 10. Further, having some enhanced video capabilities like better image resolution, better lens performance in low light, and iOS 5’s faster “in the moment” camera access capabilities are all nice, but I guess Herb is correct, they don’t really make the iPhone a mini Thompson Viper for $299, now do they? “

LOL, no you’re absolutely right, Bill. Apple’s obviously given us 4K videography in our pocket for as low as $199. I guess Jim Jannard should just throw in the towel. 😉

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[Craig Seeman]

[Bill Davis] “Heck, if they they could just build a “world phone” into the Viper, carve that down to a few ounces and sell the result at sub-$300 … then we could all be insanely happy, no?”

It’s not practically for that kind of work obviously but it may have a place in ENG work. I’ve been thinking of that ever since I was shooting a press conference a couple years back along with a row of everyone else so none of what I was shooting was unique. While another speaker wrapped, the main subject walked to the back of a crowd and started doing an interview with a reporter. My assistant spotted while I was breaking down and ran back there with his Canon Vixia . . . the only camera present. Guess which video winds up on the NY Daily News online edition?

A smartphone (iPhone) with a camera that can shoot 1080p and has some reasonable built in stabilization can really be an ultimate “go where the big camera can’t go” camera. Some might say the best camera is the one you have but I’d add it’s the one you can run 100 yards with and not have to break down or up in the process. Fly that into FCPX without transcoding. . .

I’ll add that I was talking to a potential corporate client a few weeks back suggesting that their employees might be able to grab some “vérité” video that just wouldn’t be possible with an obvious video camera.

As to 4K, it would give you a lot more room to stabilize or otherwise do camera moves in a 1080 timeline. That might be important asset in trying to make iPhone video a little bit more usable.