iPad Pro Vs Surface Pro

[Andy Patterson]

[Noah Kadner] “But there’s the rub- if I am going to bother to switch over to Windows from Mac OS l, I want a super powerful CPU and GPU I can personally upgrade whenever it suits me.”

If they are switching from Mac to PC they might not want to upgrade. Up-gradable RAM and up-gradable CPU is a bad idea for cell phones and tablets. The PCB for the RAM module is about 1/32 of an inch think plus you need the memory slots/sockets. Same holds true for the housing unit of the CPU.

Some of the Windows laptops can be upgraded as well as the Windows desktops. We will soon see 6 and 8 core CPUs for the Windows tablets with much better GPUs built in. Will the iPad still use a mobile CPU in 2019?

[Herb Sevush]

[Steve Connor] ” The fact that a major release of FCPX has happened there isn’t a vast amount of discussion on here about it I think confirms Bill’s theory that this isn’t a place that FCPX users like to hangout any more.
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I just checked the regular FCPX forum and nobody is talking about the new release there either. In fact there’s more posting here on 10.4. I have no way of knowing, but maybe it’s a boring release. Since your here, tell me what’s new in 10.4

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin\’ attached to nothin\’
\”Deciding the spine is the process of editing\” F. Bieberkopf

[Bill Davis]

The huge Facebook groups relative to X, Twirrer hash tags, web articles – The 10.4 discussions are all over those.

Largely around the three big change areas Apple demo’d for us in Cupertino in October

The new integrated Color Tools
Integrated 360 – VR – AR.
and the plumbing to handle all the HDR/wide dynamic range content barreling towards us.

The most discussion has centered on Apple’s implementation of the new internal color tools – and that has been the source of LOTS of immediate praise in their design, utility, and implementation.

There has also been a ton of focus on the transition from Sierra to High Sierra and how those underpinnings are settling in – and how that might have effected the stability of the App.

The general concensus has been that there were some early glitches in the S>HS move but those patches have been done and things are stabilizing nicely.

Purely on the FCP X front, the 10.4 release has been notable for its lack of issues and general stability.

Anything outside of the usual plugin glitches requiring third party developers to update their code.

It’s been gloriously smooth for such a large set of fundamental changes and improvements.

Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

[Andrew Kimery]

[Steve Connor] “The fact that a major release of FCPX has happened and there isn’t a vast amount of discussion on here about it I think confirms Bill’s theory that this isn’t a place that FCPX users like to hangout any more.”

The major 10.4 features were revealed in October and got thoroughly discussed at the time though. Sure they just launched, but there’s not really anything new to talk about right now except any bugs and minor changes that got released. After a few weeks of being in the wild I’m sure we’ll start hearing about the good, and the band, of the new 360 tools, grading tools, etc.,.

Also, anyone is free to start a new thread (currently there are at least two about 10.4) so if you don’t think 10.4 content on enough FCP X content then start new threads on 10.4 or FCP X. ☺

I agree with Bill that this place isn’t like FCP.co, the Final Cut Pro X Editors group on FB, or even the FCP X forum here on the COW and, IMO, it shouldn’t be because those places (and many other likes them) already exist. Typically birds of a feather flock together so websites, FB groups, forums, etc., try to capitalize on that tendency to gather large audiences of like minded people to talk about the thing(s) they like about each other.

This place is the only forum I can think of (outside of some political forums) that actively invites dissent. The point of this place is not have people with homogeneous POVs talking about how great their POV is, but to have people with heterogeneous POVs constantly testing each other.

[Lance Bachelder]

If you want to run the same Adobe apps on both machines the Surface is the only option – iPad is iOS and can’t run anything other than Lightroom.

You can use your iCloud account to easily move your Adobe projects back and forth from iMac to Surface. I do this with my PC workstation and MacBook Pro. I maintain the same font library and brush library on both so design and Photoshop are the same.

You can also buy MacDrive for your Surface so you can move drives back and forth and use normally on both.

Really depends on what you want to do on each machine but you can’t compare the iPad Pro to a Surface Pro – we have both and they’re both great but only the Surface will allow you to use real apps from Adobe etc.

It was at a Vegas premiere that I resolved to become an avid FCPX user.

Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Downtown Long Beach, California
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1680680/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

[Kingsley Asumadu]

Thanks Cami for the explanation, just one thing though, if I use the companion apps to create files will I be able to open those files in the cc applications on my iMac?

Thanks,
Kingsley.

[Kingsley Asumadu]

Thanks Lance for the advice,
I was having headache trying to make a decision.

Thanks,
Kingsley.

[John Rofrano]

[andy patterson] “I would not want MS to force the user to use two separate operating systems and two different programs depending one what device I am using.”

I restfully disagree. ???? Trying to use an application designed for a mouse and keyboard on a touch device is suboptimal at best an unworkable at worst. Apple understand this… Microsoft does not. I love my iPad Pro for what it is and I love my Mac desktop for what it is and I don’t want them to ever behave the same because I use them for completely different purposes and I embrace that they are finally tuned for those purposes and not a generic compromise.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasstsoftware.com

[Andy Patterson]

[John Rofrano] “I restfully disagree. ???? Trying to use an application designed for a mouse and keyboard on a touch device is suboptimal at best an unworkable at worst. Apple understand this… Microsoft does not.”

You are confused. You don’t have to use the metro mode (touch Screen) mode exclusively nor should you. You can switch to desktop mode when you have a mouse and keyboard connected. In fact you can connect the Surface Pro up to a 40″ 4K monitor if you want and use Adobe Premiere Pro with the mouse and keyboard. Applications designed for mouse and keyboard will work the exact same on the Surface Pro as my Custom Built desktop PC.

[John Rofrano] “I love my iPad Pro for what it is and I love my Mac desktop for what it is and I don’t want them to ever behave the same because I use them for completely different purposes and I embrace that they are finally tuned for those purposes and not a generic compromise.”

You are confused again. There is no generic compromise. Windows 10 has the Metro Mode or tablet mode that will easily compete with iOS. Windows 10 also has the Desktop Mode that easily competes with OS X. Keep in mind iOS copied a few things from the MS Metro Mode. I don’t doubt in another 3-4 years Apple will finally have one OS that does it all. You will be able to draw using your iPad but at the same time if you connect a keyboard and mouse you will be able to use FCPX. You will not need two separate devices. We PC user will have to listen to all the hoopla when it happens despite the fact Apple’s OS X is 5 years behind the times in a mobile world of hand held devices.

[Steve Connor]

[John Rofrano] “I restfully disagree. ???? Trying to use an application designed for a mouse and keyboard on a touch device is suboptimal at best an unworkable at worst. Apple understand this… Microsoft does not. I love my iPad Pro for what it is and I love my Mac desktop for what it is and I don’t want them to ever behave the same because I use them for completely different purposes and I embrace that they are finally tuned for those purposes and not a generic compromise.
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I agree, I know a lot of creatives and not one of them uses MS Windows as a touch interface, the unified OS is great in theory but so far a non-starter in practice, that’s not to say it won’t happen of course.

\”Traditional NLEs have timelines. FCPX has storylines\” W.Soyka