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iOS in enterprise
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Jeremy,
There’s interesting discussion on ars (in the comments) – surprised no one else linked it.
Franz.
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[Franz Bieberkopf] “I do wonder what Andrew Richards and Jeremy Garchow find interesting about this sort of speculation; it might just be another case of “interesting, if true”.”
I think everyone is really nervous about the “Death of the Mac”. Some are saying don’t put it in the ground quite yet.
It is evidence like this the points to it being alive and well. Big enterprise companies spend money and lots of it, on IT. If people are demanding macs to run their enterprise businesses, then I would imagine that Apple would deliver. Then there’s new management at Apple, which may (or may not) be interested in the enterprise space. There’s an Apple business division.
Until the Mac is no longer sold, or Apple announces it’s denouement, then it is still business as usual.
I know for a fact that companies are buying iPads in huge quantities, you can choose to believe me or not.
Jeremy
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[Jeremy Garchow] “It is evidence like this …”
Jeremy,
Your statement implies that you find “evidence” in that linked article.
Franz.
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I guess I am confused on what you’re questioning. What evidence would you need?
There’s an article that Apple has made an App that controls 30 iPads at a time.
The description of the applications says: “Apple Configurator makes it easy for anyone to mass configure and deploy iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch in a school, business, or institution.”
This app was not mentioned at a (markedly consumer) “iPad convention” that happened a couple of days ago.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/apple-configurator/id434433123?mt=12
There’s a site dedicated to iPad enterprise support that is linked from that application: https://www.apple.com/support/ipad/enterprise/
Jeremy
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Jeremy,
Well, I think we are in a confused discussion now. (No doubt, my fault).
It’s clear that idevices are being sold in astonishing numbers and that some are being used in corporate settings. Further, apple seems to be making some moves to accommodate those who need to set-up multiple devices (as you’ve linked). It’s also clear that mac sales are growing.
Andrew Richards posted this link (which had been discussed before as I pointed out):
https://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9223318/Apple_enterprise_sales_of_Macs_iPads_to_jump_58_this_yearCraig Seeman says “Apple’s growth in enterprise includes MBP and iMacs.”
Andrew Kimery says “The growth numbers are huge …”
Now, I don’t know – Apple may be doing crazy numbers in enterprise. But they aren’t saying, and we don’t have any good information on that. I’m vaguely interested insofar as it may influence their decisions in my particular area of concern. And so I am interested in evidence. Speculation is interesting too, mind you, as long as it’s acknowledge we’re talking about made-up numbers.
I think people come to these forums for information (I certainly do), so some fact-checking benefits us all.
But lastly – I’m not sure that discussions about iOS devices really argue against “death of the mac” speculation (though I’d be interested to hear that argument) (or maybe I’ve misunderstood your statement above).
Franz.
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I see, you are asking for the evidence of Macs in enterprise and not necessarily iDevices.
Well, with iDevices, come Macs. You need them to write the apps that the enterprise entities deploy, and the Configurator is downloaded from the MacApp store.
[Franz Bieberkopf] “But they aren’t saying, and we don’t have any good information on that.”
They never say. We might never know. All we know is that Macs are still selling, as well as iDevices, at least according to Apple. Whether or not this is in the consumer space, or the Enterprise space (or both) we probably won’t get the breakdown. I know of companies (Three major ones) that have signed up for 4,000+ iPads. How many Macs would you say you would need to support that at how many locations? Sure, it’s probably a decently low percentage, but it’s still more Macs than used to be in enterprise. And when people have a choice in laptops to use instead of the company giving them a laptop, some of those people are choosing macs (I only have anecdotal evidence of that too, but then there’s stories like this: https://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/01/18/ge_exec_says_employee_iphones_macs_show_applicants_its_a_contemporary_company.html )
Jeremy
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[Jeremy Garchow] “All we know is that Macs are still selling, as well as iDevices, at least according to Apple.”
Yes. This is precisely my point.
[Jeremy Garchow] ” I know of companies (Three major ones) that have signed up for 4,000+ iPads.”
This is interesting information to me – I’d like to know more. This says more than a lot of bluster and speculation. Why bury it deep in the thread?
Franz.
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[Franz Bieberkopf] “This is interesting information to me – I’d like to know more. This says more than a lot of bluster and speculation. Why bury it deep in the thread?”
It’s not information that is readily available on the internets, so it’s anecdotal, and not what you’re looking for. I am sure a generic Google search will probably give you more evidence if you seek it.
Jeremy
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