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  • Internal RAID-5 solutions in new Mac Pro?

    Posted by Jimmy Brunger on January 21, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    I’m wanting to spec up a Mac Pro-based VFX station mainly for AE, C4D, P/shop, etc. With the ability to capture/playout 1x stream of 1080i if needs be via Premiere.

    I’m trying to avoid an expensive external RAID solution (a separate FCP edit station will have a CalDigit HD Pro or Sonnet D800 attached)

    I just want the fastest internal drives as poss for VFX and pref in RAID-5, not RAID-0. (I currently have project + image files on one backed up SATA drive and then all source footage/RENDERS on a RAID-0….this equals a pain in the @ss workflow! and of course not that safe..)

    Does anyone know if with the new Mac Pro know you can still substitute the 2nd optical drive bay for a system drive? I know you could with the old one, but with the new model having specific slot-in HDD bays I wondered if it was still possible?

    My hope is that I can stripe 4 x SATAs into RAID-5 and have the optical drive bay as my 10,000rpm system drive? Do you need a RAID card for SATA RAID-5, or is that just for SAS drives?

    Sorry for all the questions!
    Thanks.

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    Jerry Lee replied 18 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Kevin Camp

    January 21, 2008 at 5:40 pm

    [Jimmy Brunger] “Does anyone know if with the new Mac Pro know you can still substitute the 2nd optical drive bay for a system drive? I know you could with the old one, but with the new model having specific slot-in HDD bays I wondered if it was still possible?”

    i believe this kit will should work in the new macpro’s 2nd optical bay, but you might call to verify.

    as far as fast drives, check out these recent benchmarks from barefeats.com. they were tested as single drives, but i would assume the performance will carry over to an array.

    i’m not sure you will get a raid5 with 5 drives to play/record uncompressed hd… i’ve seen tests achieving this with 8 drives (of course with 2 external sata2 enclosures, with port multiplication, and an additional sata2 card).

    Kevin Camp
    Senior Designer
    KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW

  • Kevin Camp

    January 21, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    here’s a review with benchmarks for an external solution with various drive configs and a target of uncompressed hd data rates… they didn’t use the fast seagate drive from the other test, but the 5 drive raid5 array wasn’t close to the rate needed.

    Kevin Camp
    Senior Designer
    KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW

  • Debbi Mita

    January 22, 2008 at 8:25 am

    I was in macworld last week and saw caldigit’s new raid product, CalDigit RAID card. It’s an internal raid card that can connect to mac pro’s 4 drives and another 12 external drives. I am sure it can do RIAD-5 and RAID-0. The sales person told me it’s using an Intel CPU with 256 cache memory and is a true hardware raid card.

  • Jerry Lee

    January 22, 2008 at 8:27 am

    I was at Macworld and caldigit was showing their new RAID card that does RAID 0, 1, 5 and 6. It works with the 4 internal drives and then you can add up to 12 drives externally. It looks really tempting and I wanna get myself one when it’s out.

    Correct me if I am wrong, Unlike caldigit’s raid card, I think HighPoint’s RocketRAID 2314 is a software RAID. Since caldigit claims their RAID card is a truly hardware one, I think you should really have a look.

    BTW, they were showing a short clip at Macworld telling people the differences between software RAID and hardware RAID. One of the guy at caldigit told me it’s also available at youtube. I did a little search and found it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4WjVJIJqdI&feature=related

    Good Luck

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  • Jerry Lee

    January 22, 2008 at 8:29 am

    I was at Macworld and caldigit was showing their new RAID card that does RAID 0, 1, 5 and 6. It works with the 4 internal drives and then you can add up to 12 drives externally. It looks really tempting and I wanna get myself one when it’s out.

    Correct me if I am wrong, Unlike caldigit’s raid card, I think HighPoint’s RocketRAID 2314 is a software RAID. Since caldigit claims their RAID card is a truly hardware one, I think you should really have a look.

    BTW, they were showing a short clip at Macworld telling people the differences between software RAID and hardware RAID. One of the guy at caldigit told me it’s also available at youtube. I did a little search and found it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4WjVJIJqdI&feature=related

    Good Luck

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