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  • Interlacing problems in Digital Output

    Posted by Theautomator on April 17, 2007 at 5:12 pm

    Hello all,

    First time poster here.
    I have an issue that has been bugging me for some time. And it has to do with fields, interpretation, interlacing, etc.

    Source
    I would capture from a digibeta deck using DPS as my capture card. Footage comes in as 720×486, 29.97, Interlaced. (from DigiBeta)
    Using AE 6.5 Pro

    The Problem.
    Lately we’ve been asked to deliver composited footage in digital formats (eg. Quicktimes), mainly to be used in the Web. So we’re not dealing with any additional video equipment here other than for capturing. I run into a lot of issues with fields and interlacing and i can’t figure it out in AE.

    Let me use one scenario just to simplify the case.
    (Capture clean footage and spit out Clean footage in QT)

    We have a captured footage and import it to AE. Of course it has interlacing. I interpret the footage lower-field. Field-render out with lower-field first in render settings. Output a QT (animation codec for example). I end up with footage with interlacing, funny lines, etc.

    I have also tried keeping seperate fields OFF. The footage looks nice, but I see interlacing, funny lines at several points. I tried many different combinations, but nothing looks like what I want to achieve.

    The short story is. I see nice footage in the video monitor. I want to deliver that same nice footage in Quicktimes without those jagged edges (ones u see after you interpret footage) and without those interlacing. Any help you can provide would be most useful.

    I hope I provided enough info. Thank you all.

    Luc Bourgeois replied 19 years, 1 month ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
  • 7 Replies
  • Danny Princz

    April 17, 2007 at 5:43 pm

    you need to deinterlace your footage.
    many times this is done in the compressing stage

    who is that masked man…
    https://www.exposedideas.com/

  • Theautomator

    April 17, 2007 at 6:28 pm

    [rendernyc] “you need to deinterlace your footage.
    many times this is done in the compressing stage”

    Thank you for your reply.

    From my above post, I guess you can say I’ve been trying to deinterlace my footage, but without much success.

    So how do we go about deInterlacing the footage properly?

    You say it is done in the compressing stage. Do you mean when you capture from the source? Or is this after effects work?

    If you can provide steps, methods, programs, etc… that would be most helpful. Thanks a lot.

  • Danny Princz

    April 17, 2007 at 7:08 pm

    you mention that you are delivering quicktimes for the web.

    how are you prepping those files for web delivery?
    are you rendering your out of after effects to a compressed format or using compressor, squeeze, etc?

    who is that masked man…
    https://www.exposedideas.com/

  • Theautomator

    April 17, 2007 at 8:13 pm

    [rendernyc] “you mention that you are delivering quicktimes for the web.

    how are you prepping those files for web delivery?
    are you rendering your out of after effects to a compressed format or using compressor, squeeze, etc?”

    Often we are asked to do After Effects work that requires the use of footage. (keying, graphics treatment, etc…) In one case, we were asked to deliver a quicktime of a keyed footage with an alpha embedded for our clients. But of course we have the problem of interlacing, footage interpretation, etc.

    But regardless of what kind of work we are doing to the footage, I’m just going to use a simple scenario for example.

    IN – Clean footage from a digitalbeta source
    Standard 720×486, 29.97, NTSC footage

    OUTput – Clean footage in a Movie File (Quicktime)
    I want to deliver final clean footage in quicktimes without those jagged edges from interpretations. And without those interlaced lines you see in non-inpretted footage

    Rendering out in After Effects, if possible.

    I wonder if there is another step that I’m not awared of? A step you must take after rendering out in After Effects?

    I hope I didn’t make things too confusing

    Thanks!

  • Frank Ruggiero

    April 17, 2007 at 8:56 pm

    I would interpret the fields seperated (probably lower field first) in the interpret box, and then render it out without any fields.

    But if your quicktime file is ultimately going to end up being broadcast off of NTSC, I would be tempted to render with fields. If it is just going to be on a computer monitor, then don’t render with fields.

    See if the image looks better….

    -Frank R.

  • Theautomator

    April 17, 2007 at 11:43 pm

    [Frank Ruggiero] “I would interpret the fields seperated (probably lower field first) in the interpret box, and then render it out without any fields.”

    The thing that happens with this combination is that you would see jagged edges around the subject in the final output.

    If we don’t interpret the fields and then render out. You have nice footage and clean edges, but you have interlacing problems. I’ve tried many different combinations of interpretations and field renderings, but with no success.

    There must be someway to get rid of the interlacing without making those edges all jagged.

    Thanks anyways!

  • Luc Bourgeois

    April 18, 2007 at 3:30 am

    I had the same problem you have, I bought a plug in called fieldskit here is the web site https://www.revisionfx.com/products/fieldskit/ and it does what it’s suppose to do, turns interlaced footage into what I call “pseudo progressive”,works great.

    Hope this helps
    Luc

    Luc Bourgeois
    Cygnus Video Productions
    LV, NV
    702-432-4431
    cygnusvp@cox.net

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