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Interesting Phenomenon….HDV to DVD
Thank you all in advance for any comments you may have, this is an observation I’m looking to use to my advantage.
Workflow:
1. HDV 1080-60i (NTSC) converted to DVD = looks like crap, always has, assuming it always will, I’ve learned to live with this after 6 posts on the subject and, although good attempts at offering a solution, nothing has ever really helped to get my HDV footage to look as good as my SD camera looks on DVD.
2. Burn to DVD with DVD-A– while crying for the loss of my beautiful footage and hoping my client won’t notice.
3. Place into standard cheap DVD player– hit play, looks blurry and dull, until….
If I push fast forward at 2x my spirits lift because it looks good again,….now, I know this is because it’s playing at twice the resolution , but does anyone think there is something that can be done to utilize this to obtain a cleaner sharper image after the down-sampling, maybe a copy of the video on another layer shifted slightly right or something?
just a thought, thoughts and comments welcome.
B.Nolan
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I think we need more details on your renderin settins…
My Sony EX-1 HD footage converted to DVD blows away my old DVX-100b in every way!
Other wise, could be settings with in your camera… Play with the picture profiles…
But, I’m guessing you are complaining about the interlacing issue…compression ettings is what make stuff look bad.
I know it’s not the best way, but I let DVD-A make the DVD file and set the bit rate to max, 9600kbs. But it works for me, I think you will see great footage if you let DVD-A make the footage…
Send me a few seconds of a clip, I’ll look at your footage and test it.
David at newportpictures dot tv
good luck…
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As for rendering, I generally set my project settings prior to editing by using the properties assign method, it always says 1440x1080i (upper field, etc.) I leave everything else the same. I render to the DVD-A wide-screen template, using best or I export as 1080i MPEG-2 (usually says “no re compression required”) and use Pro-coder to make my DVD files. I’ve been known to use a bit-rate calculator on longer projects.
That’s really nice of you,…thank you, and I’ll try using DVD-A for the down-conversion. Might be the camera…it’s a Sony HVR-HD1000U.
By putting the DVD bit rate at 9600kbs will that not cause problems for a few low end DVD player users? I always thought 8k was the safest, this is going to be distributed in a rural area where we only have a Wal-Mart you know we all have the $35 Snagnavox players.
I’ll figure out how to send you some footage.
Any other help is greatly appreciated.
B.Nolan
http://www.awenmediadesign.com -
Found this on the Vasst Website
“Further, you don’t want to be editing the raw MPEG transport stream because you’ll endure a potentially significant loss of quality without the intermediary. When you render to print to tape, if you wish to print to your HDV camera, the intermediary will re-convert the intermediate stream to the MPEG format once again, providing you with a great image. “
I have been editing the raw MPEG-ts stream (exactly what Sony captures) I set my project properties to it and I render to it, am I not supposed to be doing this?
B.Nolan
http://www.awenmediadesign.com -
I have yet to find a DVD player that doesn’t take higher bit rate…but if you need to calculate your projects for compression…then it’s possible to be going way under 8kb/s I did a large 2hr project client wanted on 1 dvd. it ended up around 5kb/s I thought it looked terrible, like youtube quality.
My only other thought for your issue would be, the de-interlace settings. Don’t set it to deinterlace. That will cause you to loose resolution. It will look bad on a computer screen, but will look better on a tv.
I know you said upper field first which is correct but there are other settings as well in the project settings.
good luck.
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