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Interesting article on using FCPX for Broadcast
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Thanks for the link. The rest of your post is completely subjective and therefore doesn’t require any comment…
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.
mitch@insightproductions.com
http://www.insightproductions.com“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill
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[Mitch Ives] “The rest of your post is completely subjective and therefore doesn’t require any comment…”
As are most posts on any forum anywhere. If we all thought like that the internet would have a lot less traffic.
But as I’m on a break from cutting a feature on FCPX at the moment I’ll be a bit more subjective.
I quote…
“Because of the way that the program works, you are now limited to editing decisions that are based on a relationship to the first frame of your project. The whole idea of being non linear is things can go where you want them go, and stay there. I can easily work on the end, go back to the beginning, then the middle, etc. That is virtually impossible with FCPX. ”
Not true.
“Easy example……lets say you are working on a music video, and the footage has been shot for the “Chorus” parts of the song. There is no way to edit those sections efficiently, leaving black holes for the verses, and going back later. Due to the magnetic timeline, everything wants to insert and ripple.”
Not True
“Something as simple as removing a couple minutes from the middle of an edit can’t even be done neatly. If you want to remove minutes 4-5, you need to do the compound clip rain dance, make an edit, and prey to the Gods you can get your stuff to un-compound back into some sort of sanity”
Not True
Anything to comment on there?
Steve Connor
“FCPX Agitator”
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Steve, as usual you’ve missed the point of my original post. I find all viewpoints interesting. I have yet to read one that rings completely true… nor completely false. Nothing in the known solar system is that black and white.
Just like seat time doesn’t make you always right. Do you use the program more than the author of the post you despise? You have no way of knowing… just like you have no way of knowing whether you use it more than anyone else that posts on the forum. But what difference would it make anyway? This forum is full of people that use things a lot and are still wrong in what they post. The connection between those two things is not an absolute.
As I said I find all viewpoints worth considering… even yours. Though I will say that I find some of your more objective posts like the one in this thread a bit more helpful:
https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/344/6636#6636
In the end it isn’t about you… it isn’t about me… it’s not about good or bad, it’s about the pursuit of what it actually is…
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.
mitch@insightproductions.com
http://www.insightproductions.com“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill
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[Mitch Ives] “Do you use the program more than the author of the post you despise? You have no way of knowing”
Yes I do, and I know this because, as I stated before, and also referred to in my last post, the points he made about editing in FCPX were actually incorrect, not subjectively incorrect but ACTUALLY incorrect
Steve Connor
“FCPX Agitator”
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Concur – that blog was so blatantly false I didn’t even know where to begin my response so just didn’t bother – but really really sad.
Glad to see the article this thread is about though – It’s funny how all the usual suspects instantly chime in with their negativity etc.
I have to agree that results can be much better with X than 7 – color timing just seems so much cleaner and more subtle, especially on DSLR footage. I’m using a Dreamcolor via Display Port with calibrated profile but looking forward to firing up Kona 3 in future rev.
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[Steve Connor] ”
“Easy example……lets say you are working on a music video, and the footage has been shot for the “Chorus” parts of the song. There is no way to edit those sections efficiently, leaving black holes for the verses, and going back later. Due to the magnetic timeline, everything wants to insert and ripple.”Not True
“quick question steve – do you work it with the primary holding the music track?
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Yeah, we’ve been on a CatDV Enterprise Server for the last year and a half. Brilliant product, can’t say enough good things about it. Just wondered if you might have heard any recent scuttlebutt about it’s direction as it relates to FCPX?
Frankly, this association is one of the bigger reason’s I still monitor this forum. It has the biggest potential to bring FCPX from it’s current state of inadequacy to something that might possibly be a practical collaborative tool.
Marvin Holdman
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[Franz Bieberkopf] “Walter, I hope you’ll consider doing a real (article level?) critical analysis of the FCPX monitoring solution when it is finally announced / included. I, for one, would love to hear what you have to say about it.”
Franz, that sounds like it could be interesting to really dig into. Thanks for the suggestion, and thanks for your kind words.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “quick question steve – do you work it with the primary holding the music track?”
If it’s a performance video then I’ll take a master shot, sync the track to it and then use the secondary storylines to layer up other shots above, pretty much exactly as I did in FCP 7, as there is no default ripple.
If it’s a non-sync video then I put the music track in the primary and do the same, despite the rumours, it’s as easy to cut music pieces in X as in 7, when you know the software
Steve Connor
“FCPX Agitator”
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how do you deal with the fact that the in out points, shortcuts etc default exclusively to the primary? how does that work with your workflow as you attempt to work with footage sitting off the primary in your music edit?
its an intentionally reductive single track imovie style operation editor steve – do you think locking in and out marks to one single track is an advancement to the art?
I’ll stick around wailing at apple until they call realistic lights out on FCPX in general… in about two years..? but this is magnificently stupid software.
It is the grand gold – coded by five itunes apple guys on a lunch break – editing software.
Its going to stay stupid steve. Its intellectually stupid software – all my bile aside – this I truly feel is genuinely stupid, ill-informed software.
Like the moron locked in out target, there is just. too. much. stupid to bear steve. far too stupid..
http://www.ogallchoir.net
promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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