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Intel Xenon Phi in 2013 f/WSJ
Of course maybe it’s just a coincidence that really interesting improvements for Macs are promised to be in the pipeline for later in 2013. Maybe this will bring a smile to Herb’s face:
https://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2012/06/18/intel-says-more-about-supercomputer-chip-including-brand/Rick Lang
iMac 27” 2.8GHz i7 16GB
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I saw that the other day.
It looks crazy (and probably pricey!)!
It’s when you see things like this, you realize that none of this is stopping. We might be in a lull right now in Mac land, but cool things are still happening.
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[Rick Lang] “Maybe this will bring a smile to Herb’s face:”
Computer chips still in development will not bring a smile to any part of me no matter how many cores they have; I’m a bird in the hand sort of guy. On the other hand I just took possession of my last OSX computer. While overpriced and outdated it runs FCP without crashing, which is an experience I’ve been sorely lacking these past few months, and that brings a smile to my face.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Jeremy:
“It looks crazy (and probably pricey!)!”But aren’t those very words one way to describe the Mac Pro? 8^)
Sounds like it could be a fit. I didn’t pay too much attention frankly to the articke’s emphasis on supercomputing use as it wouldn’t surprise me to see this trickle down to something like the Mac Pro or whatever Tim Cook is really working on that he can’t tell you except to confirm it’s coming.
Rick Lang
iMac 27” 2.8GHz i7 16GB
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[Rick Lang] “Sounds like it could be a fit. I didn’t pay too much attention frankly to the articke’s emphasis on supercomputing use as it wouldn’t surprise me to see this trickle down to something like the Mac Pro or whatever Tim Cook is really working on that he can’t tell you except to confirm it’s coming.
“I don’t think you understand the process being described here. The “M” in “MIC” stands for many, and by many, they mean MANY. It doesn’t scale down. Its about taking stripped down specialty cpus and placing them in very intense clusters of 50 or 100 or more. This has nothing what-so-ever to do with anything Apple might be producing next year.
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[Herb Sevush] “While overpriced and outdated it runs FCP without crashing, which is an experience I’ve been sorely lacking these past few months, and that brings a smile to my face.
“There you go! I was back on FCP for awhile, yesterday. Every time I go back, I think what a great platform.
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[Chris Harlan] “I don’t think you understand the process being described here. The “M” in “MIC” stands for many, and by many, they mean MANY. It doesn’t scale down. Its about taking stripped down specialty cpus and placing them in very intense clusters of 50 or 100 or more. This has nothing what-so-ever to do with anything Apple might be producing next year.”
Totally, I’m sure intel will learn nothing from it.
Also, (and I say this to joke with you) you’re holding it wrong, those 50 cores are on one PCIe card: https://theverge.com/2012/6/18/3094404/inte-xeon-phi-50-core-x86-HPC
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[Jeremy Garchow] “[Chris Harlan] “I don’t think you understand the process being described here. The “M” in “MIC” stands for many, and by many, they mean MANY. It doesn’t scale down. Its about taking stripped down specialty cpus and placing them in very intense clusters of 50 or 100 or more. This has nothing what-so-ever to do with anything Apple might be producing next year.”
Totally, I’m sure intel will learn nothing from it.
Also, (and I say this to joke with you) you’re holding it wrong, those 50 cores are on one PCIe card: https://theverge.com/2012/6/18/3094404/inte-xeon-phi-50-core-x86-HPC
“Nice looking picture of it. But what is the cost of the thing–20, 50, 100 grand? If you have to ask, you’re not a potential client. Its a module for a super computer.
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[Chris Harlan] “Nice looking picture of it. But what is the cost of the thing–20, 50, 100 grand? If you have to ask, you’re not a potential client. Its a module for a super computer.”
I’d imagine to be around the cost of a good GPU if that’s the market they are chasing.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “I’d imagine to be around the cost of a good GPU if that’s the market they are chasing.
“This is interesting. These folks put together a Tesla GPU workstation and have a config tool.
https://www.velocitymicro.com/wizard.php?sr=0&iid=194&gclid=CMvD47_i27ACFWLktgodkHe72g
11 or 12 grand is the starting price for a system with two Tesla Fermi Processors, which they price out at 2 grand each. 16 GPUs brings the system to 25 grand. And that is with an 8 meg video card.
Give it a real video card, top out the ram (288) and the available Xeons and you are looking at 37 grand. Not bad for a supercomputer. My guess is that the Intel cards–which apparently blow the Fermis away–will be in the same ballpark, but a tad pricier. So my guess is that a starter machine will run between 15 and 20 grand and a sizzle-core-eating top-of-the-liner will come in around 50 or 60 grand. Still, that would be an amazing amount of calculation power for under 100 grand. Now, if we can only get that into a tablet.
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Chris:
“Its about taking stripped down specialty cpus and placing them in very intense clusters of 50 or 100 or more.”Certainly everything you say is true if you want to build a supercomputer. I just thought there might be a different way to implement the Xeon Phi using one card. Even that might be too expensive for Apple to touch. It does seem odd that 50 cores would only use 8 GB GDDR5 memory in the Knight’s Corner card.
Rick Lang
iMac 27” 2.8GHz i7 16GB
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