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  • Insideout and backwards sizing in pan/crop

    Posted by Harry Putnam on January 24, 2011 at 2:44 am

    I imagine there is some really logical reason, for it to be the way it is, and further that it will have been raised many times here.

    I’ll risk being RTFM’ed … can someone offer a URL or some explanation of why sizing and moving seem to be inside out, upside down, backward and left handed when using the pan/crop tool?
    (just joking [for all you left handers out there])

    Littler is bigger, left is right and up is down. Its really kind of hard to imaging that this is somehow better or desirable.

    I’m sure one can get used to it, but I’m having trouble with why it is incumbent on us to have to do that. What is the advantage?

    I’m also missing how to move things around in the preview monitor. Is there a setting somewhere that will allow that?

    John Rofrano replied 15 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Mike Kujbida

    January 24, 2011 at 3:00 am

    “I imagine there is some really logical reason, for it to be the way it is, and further that it will have been raised many times here.”

    There’s no logical reason I’ve ever read as to why it works the way it does.
    Maybe the original programmer(s) thought it was the best way of doing it or maybe he/she/they was/were “under the influence” at the time and no one ever bothered changing it 🙂

    “I’m also missing how to move things around in the preview monitor. Is there a setting somewhere that will allow that?”

    Only if you’re using Pan/Crop or Track Motion but I don’t think that’s the answer you were looking for.

  • Harry Putnam

    January 24, 2011 at 3:09 am

    [Mike Kujbida]
    There’s no logical reason I’ve ever read as to why it works the way it does.
    Maybe the original programmer(s) thought it was the best way of doing it or maybe he/she/they was/were “under the influence” at the time and no one ever bothered changing it :)”

    Thanks Mike… I got a good chuckle out of that.

    Reminds me of the story I’ve heard about Bill Joy, who many years ago authored the veritable unix text editor called vi.

    It’s generally believed that Bill was sloppy drunk when he wrote the bulk of it, and is said to have asked when he sobered up, who in the h___ wrote this junk! And yet it stands to this day, in large part as it was originally written. (Many many, improvements and additions of course)

  • Matt Crowley

    January 24, 2011 at 10:47 am

    The Pan/Crop tool isn’t really working backwards. What you are moving/sizing when you drag the handles in the the Pan/Crop window is the output video frame (relative to the source), not the source media itself. Normally you’d be shrinking the dashed outline by dragging the handles to select only a part of the input media (ie a crop or a Ken Burns pan), but if you enlarge it, you are “enlarging” the space that the source media will be placed into, therefore the source media will be smaller in the output video (this would normally be done using Track Motion). A bit odd, but once you get your head around it, it kinda makes sense…

  • John Rofrano

    January 24, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    Matt is correct and just to give you another way of thinking about it…

    The ‘F’ in the windows is the FRAME of your camera. It is your “viewfinder”. When you make the frame smaller, you are zooming in. When you make the frame larger, you are zooming out. When you move the frame to the right, the whole world looks like it’s moving left. When you move the frame to left, the whole world looks like it’s moving right. What you are doing is framing the media differently just like you frame subjects with your camera.

    Just think of the Frame window as the viewfinder on your camera and everything will make perfect sense to you.

    ~jr

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