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  • Insecure Editor

    Posted by Pam Timson on December 11, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    i am digitizing 100’s of hours of DV minis shot on VX1000 Sony and DVX100 Panasonic and have neither the knowledge nor equipment to confirm the quality of my digitized material. Seeking your approval or recommendations!

    I am planning to use a Sony DSR-11 deck with Final Cut 6.06. I do not know the finally use, just want do what I have to do to maximize the quality of my digitizing process.

    1) Is my choice of deck and final cut 6 best? I have been told by third party that I need to upgrade to FCP 7 and use Pro Res codec. However your forum previously said that FCP 6.06 in DV NTSC is fine…its all 0 and 1s. (i told you I was insecure. 😉

    2) The material shot on VX1000 gets sample rate errors, so I created my own presets. Please confirm all is correct: DV NTSC DVCPRO; Frame Size 720×480 3:2; 29.97 frames per second, 32 kHz 16 bit; data rate 3.6 MB/sec; Pixel Aspect NTSC-CCIR 601.

    3) I shot with wireless lav on channel 1 and shot-gun on 2. I set capture presets to two mono. Does this gives me seperated audio channels?

    4) DV1000 and DVX100 have different audio sample rates. Will I have any problems in editing if I digitize tapes according to sample rate they were shot at?

    5) Any other words of wisdom?

    Thank you for all your help! You make big things possible for little people and that is a true blessing!

    Pam Timson replied 12 years, 5 months ago 5 Members · 18 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    December 11, 2013 at 5:52 pm

    1) Any DV deck or camera will work, as all that is happening is a file transfer, from tape to FCP. Use the DV/NTSC (or DV/PAL if in Europe) Easy Setup and you are good to go. No need for ProRes, that increases the file size with no increase in quality…besides you’ll need more than a deck and firewire connection in order to do that. And FCP 6 is fine. FCP has been capturing DV native since FCP 1. DESIGNED for it.

    2) DV is 720×480, 48Khz 16 bit, 29.97. 3:2 is pulldown, only to be done if your camera shoots in a 24p format, and the VX1000 does not.

    3) Yes.

    4) I’ve never captured anything less than 48KHz…the DV preset sets it to that. You have issues when you do this?

    5) Don’t take any wooden nickels.

    Shane
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  • Pam Timson

    December 11, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    Ummm “3:2 is a pull-down…24p” and I shot standard so I assume that means that the 50+ video that I already digitized as Capture Preset “DV NTSC 48 kHz” with the width/height at 720×480 and Aspect ratio as NTSC DV (3:2). needs to be re-digitized with a corrected aspect ratio, and that correct setting is “NTSC” with a width/height 640×480 and Aspect Ratio of NTSC (4:3)? Did I take a wooden nickel?

  • Shane Ross

    December 11, 2013 at 7:41 pm

    [Pam Timson] “Aspect ratio as NTSC DV (3:2).”

    OH…that’s aspect ratio. 3:2? not 4:3? That seems odd.

    No need to recapture.

    Shane
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  • Pam Timson

    December 11, 2013 at 8:12 pm

    Yes, I believe so. If I click on “Audio/Video Settings” and under “Summary” tab and choose “Capture Preset” “DV NTSC 48 kHz”, then click “Capture Preset” the DV NTSC 48 kHz is highlighted. If I click “Edit” a warning message comes up “the selected preset is locked and cannot be modified.” When the computer creates a copy (that provides more information about the presets) it reads: NTSC DV (3:2); Frame Size 720×480; and compressor DV/DVCPro-NTSC.

    Okay I just conducted a test by digitizing a tape using computer preset DV NTSC 48 kHz. The following error message appears: The audio sample rate of one or more of your captured media files does not match the sample rate on your source tape. …this may cause files to be out of sync Make sure the audio sample are of preset matches tape.”

    How do I find out wether the clip was digitized in 3:2 or 4:3 ? Wow talk about digitizing 101!

  • Shane Ross

    December 11, 2013 at 8:17 pm

    Sorry, it’s been YEARS since I’ve captured DV, and when I did, I always used the presets.

    IS your footage out of synch when you play it? It might not be. If so, then modify the preset (duplicate it first) and set to 32KHz…I guess.

    Shane
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    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Pam Timson

    December 11, 2013 at 8:19 pm

    In reference to test I just ran with Preset DV NTSC the Item Properties reads that the clip Frame size is 720×480 so assume its still 3:2 and its supposed to be 4:3?

  • Pam Timson

    December 11, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    I have been digitizing with a custom preset of 32 kHz and that solved the Audio Sample Rate issue, no more error messages, so I guess I am on the right track. But what about the Frame size of 720×480 with NTSC DV 3:2, is that correct? I don’t mean to be difficult i just want to make sure I am doing things right. i to digitize 500 hours in wrong Frame size.

  • Pam Timson

    December 11, 2013 at 8:33 pm

    I have been digitizing with a custom preset of 32 kHz and that solved the Audio Sample Rate issue, no more error messages and less syncing problems, so I guess I am on the right track. But what about the Frame size of 720×480 with NTSC DV 3:2 is that correct? I don’t mean to be difficult i just want to make sure I am doing things right. i don t want to digitize 500 hours in wrong Frame size.

  • Shane Ross

    December 11, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    Just look at the footage, if it looks right, then it’s right. If it looks squished or stretched, then it’s not.

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Pam Timson

    December 11, 2013 at 8:41 pm

    That’s the thing sometimes I think it looks a little off and sometimes it looks okay. Fine line between 3:2 and 4:3. These tapes date to 1997 to 2004 and may not hold up under several captures. I want to be positive I have the right capture setting. Any ideas on how to be sure?

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