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  • Insanely faster render with Vegas?

    Posted by Gabriele Marella on July 21, 2014 at 7:36 pm

    Hallo there!
    I have to use Vegas for my work but I need the fastest rendering ever to save time for other works.
    Since I’m already using the “right settings” to save time, I decided to upgrade my pc….my old specs were:

    Coolermaster Centurion 6+ALI
    750w Corsair
    CPU quadcore Intel i7-4770-m/b ASUS z87/m plus
    SSD 120gb
    vga Sapphire HD7750
    16gb RAM 1600mhz Corsair DDRIII
    Windows 7 home premium 64bit

    But then, since i render using the GPU Encode settings, I changed my graphic card with a
    Geforce GTX 780 DirectCU II OC

    They told me it was one of the best cards out there for what I’m looking for, but
    the rendering time didn’t changed a bit….so…what shoud I do? What I have to update to have the fastest rendering time ever? I’m kinda lost here….

    Please, answer to this dilemma, it’s quite important…

    John Rofrano replied 11 years, 7 months ago 6 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Dave Osbun

    July 21, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    Intel Xeon processors will yield the fastest render times.

  • Gabriele Marella

    July 21, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    An example of the rendering times?

    With the actual settings (much like these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odQiXruP4UY) I can render video 1080p 30fps in….about the same lenght of the edited video plus some minutes (20 mins of the edited video takes about 22-23 mins).
    With that processor how much will it take?

  • Steve Rhoden

    July 22, 2014 at 3:06 am

    As Dave said, only Intel Xeon processors can give you any significantly
    faster render times. We don’t have a Xeon processor to give you an exact
    estimate, But since you seem to be in earnest, that’s the sure route.
    No GPU card is gonna get you super fast rendering out of Vegas!

    Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
    Film Maker & VFX Artist.
    Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
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  • Gabriele Marella

    July 22, 2014 at 4:40 am

    I understand… but I’m spending money here, I’d like to have at least a witness of the rendering speed… if anyone knows somebody with such a processor….
    Anyone has a suggestion for a good Xeon processor? Is it compatible with my kind of pc, anyway?
    Does anything speed up the rendering except the things we just said? How about the RAM?

  • John Rofrano

    July 22, 2014 at 11:58 am

    [Gabriele Marella] “if anyone knows somebody with such a processor….”

    I have Dual Xeon’s in my 8-core Mac Pro. You might want to perform the render tests that I used in this post: “New” graphics card and see how your computer stacks up.

    As stated in my post, these results are from my 2008 Mac Pro 2×2.8 GHz Quad Core Xeon E5462 (8 Cores/8 Threads), 16GB memory, ATI Radeon HD 5870, SSD boot, 2TB HDD Raid 0 (which, btw, I picked up for only $740 on eBay!)

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Gabriele Marella

    July 22, 2014 at 1:08 pm

    Uhm…. so the test you made takes more or about the same time for the edited video….?
    Honestly I was expecting more from that DX.

  • John Rofrano

    July 23, 2014 at 10:26 am

    Well the test are really testing two things. #1 the two video cards but #2 they are testing my dual Xeon’s against a single 6-core but because he 6-core is several architectures newer and clocked faster it performs overall faster than the older 8-cores. I’m currently looking a buying a newer 12-core Xeon.

    The test also shows that OpenCL performs better than CUDA for timeline playback which is why I concluded that AMD Radeon cards are better than NVIDIA cards for improving playback in Vegas Pro.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Gabriele Marella

    July 23, 2014 at 3:23 pm

    Yet, the rendering time is about the same as mine.
    Do you think the 12-core would give a better performance for the render rime?
    I was aiming for…I don’t know….a quarter of the time for video rendered with 1080p 60fps settings.

  • John Rofrano

    July 24, 2014 at 11:07 am

    [Gabriele Marella] “Do you think the 12-core would give a better performance for the render rime?”

    If you were rendering using CPU only, then the 12-core would definitely increase performance. if, however, you are using GPU rendering, the 12-core might not perform any better because it will be waiting for the GPU to return the data it has processed so at that point, the GPU becomes the bottleneck in the system.

    [Gabriele Marella] “I was aiming for…I don’t know….a quarter of the time for video rendered with 1080p 60fps settings.”

    If you are currently using a 4-core and you move up to a 12-core and you render with CPU only, you should get close to 4x faster or “a quarter of the time” it takes now.

    Like I’ve said before, with GPU rendering, sometimes my GPU is at 40% and my CPU is at 20% and I’m left wondering what is going on and why isn’t one of them maxed out to 100%? It’s a complete waste of available resources. Same thing for timeline playback; I’ll be watching the timeline stutter and neither my CPU or GPU is anywhere close to being 100% utilized. I can’t explain it.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • David Norman

    July 25, 2014 at 12:42 am

    rather than the super expensive Xeon line you might look into the 4930k or the soon to be released Haswell-E parts on the x99 motherboards.

    less expensive with similar horse power. They OC well. I just finished a 3930 6 core build that runs at 3.2 GHZ stock and I OCed it to 4.5 ghz (unlocked multiplier makes it easy) and I am seeing about 30-40% decrease in render times with the same project from my 4 core i7 3770 CPU.

    Same GPU, same RAM

    Dell XPS 15″ 9350 i7, 512gb SSD, Nvidia 750m
    Intel i7 4770, R9 290, 32gb, 2xRAID0 Intel 240gb SSD, 2x2TB WD Green, 3×23″ Samsung LCDs
    https://youtube.com/adidas4275

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