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  • Insane export times

    Posted by Mario Mattei on February 24, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    I could really use some help. My deadline is here and my 24 min 1080p 24fps (from Mk 2) film will take 10 hours to export from either Premiere cs6 or Media Encoder

    I’m testing a small 160×90 pix, highly compressed version and it’s taking an 1 hour. Insane!

    System
    iMac 2.7GHz Core i5
    16GB Ram
    –working from WD Thunderbolt duo drive

    Test Settings
    Quick time
    h.264
    160×90
    15 frame rate
    limit data to 1,000 kbps
    * no check boxes ticked

    AAC audio

    This is a 1080p film, but I can show the client a 720p or 360p, if needed, movie via Vimeo.

    I need a more efficient solution. The deadline is upon me and I budgeted 4 hours for export.

    In the past all my videos have been under 5min. It’s my largest project. Growing pains!!!

    Lookn’ for a mentor here! Thanks so much.
    Mario

    Bob Spez replied 10 years, 7 months ago 8 Members · 18 Replies
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  • Tero Ahlfors

    February 24, 2013 at 4:28 pm

    Have you enabled maximum render quality?

  • Mario Mattei

    February 24, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    No, I have not enabled ‘max render quality’.

  • Tero Ahlfors

    February 24, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    Have you tried exporting it out with the same settings as your sequence? Or maybe to another codec? That 160×90 at 15fps just seems really weird.

  • Ann Bens

    February 24, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    If you enable MRQ export will take even longer and more RAM.

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  • Mario Mattei

    February 24, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    I don’t have MRQ enabled.

  • Mario Mattei

    February 24, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    You mean at 1080p 23fps? I could try it but seems like the ultra compressed and basically ruined version shouldn’t have taken over an hour to export.

    Should I move the project to my iMac?

  • Michael Hendrix

    February 24, 2013 at 10:32 pm

    Do you have any plugins like Magic Bullet on?

  • Jon Barrie

    February 24, 2013 at 10:38 pm

    G’day Mario,

    I generally find the best way to export quickly for client approval is to use the Same as Seq Tick box at Export Settings and just export that out as a mezzanine master clip. Once that’s processed add it to a sequence that is to scale (360×180) is probably as small as I’d personally go for approvals.

    If the scaling is already being handled in the sequence the export match to that tends to be faster.

    You can try to add the original edit to a new sequence (nesting) that match the export settings you want – and bypass the mezzanine export step. In my experience that is faster than exporting from original sequence dimensions to a smaller export scale.

    When exporting out a clip on it’s own, where there is only one file and no effects being used the export times are quick.

    If you think about it the more you try to shrink the dimensions the more processing is required to spit it out, especially when it’s processing effects, transitions and decoding what’s probably already a complex codec to encoding to another complex codec such as H.264 – the less re-processing the better!

    i5 is not a powerful CPU so don’t expect too much from it. Having a machine with a supported GPU will make your life so much faster especially with scale related exports since the scaling and Accelerated effects are processed by the GPU in conjunction with the CPU and RAM.

    Cheers JB

    Jon Barrie
    Adobe Video Solutions Consultant ANZ
    Jon’s YouTube Tutorial Page
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  • Mario Mattei

    February 24, 2013 at 11:55 pm

    Jon,

    Thanks a lot for this. Just the advice I was seeking. Something I wouldn’t have thought of.

    To be sure I understand you…

    Option 1.
    Export the main sequence using “same as sequence” tick box.
    Import the outputted file into a new Prem project to a timeline/sequence that is 360p, for example.
    Then export again using “same as sequence”.

    –well, if I had the 1080p file I wouldn’t need the small 360p. I thought exporting to a smaller dimension would decrease render time. But your logic makes sense. It’s more to crunch.

    Option 2. (which seems the best)
    Within my project make a new sequence that’s 360p (ok, did that)
    Put in the original edit via nesting (ok, not working… I copy pasted the main 1080p timeline stuff to the 360p sequence. It’s just a small frame with huge videos that didn’t scale down. Whether or not I nest the videos in the timeline, doesn’t matter.)

    –in theory this makes sense to me. could you explain it step by step?

    BTW, I’m exporting in Media Encoder as I write this. I used “same as sequence” and it appears to be almost twice as fast as the small, super compressed video. I don’t understand your solutions, but your principals and logic have changed the way I think about exporting. Thanks for this and for any further assistance. There are still many good humans out there and you’re one of them!

    peace,
    Mario

  • Jon Barrie

    February 25, 2013 at 12:00 am

    Hey Mario,

    For option 2:
    – find the sequence in the project panel.
    – Drag and Drop the sequence into the one you made for 360p
    – right click the sequence (which should look like one uncut clip for the entire duration of the edit)
    – Select “Scale to Frame” from the list.
    – The Dimensions should automatically fit the smaller dimension of the sequence.

    Export to the codec type you need that matches the dimensions and frame rate of the 360p sequence. (H.264 or whatever needs to be for the client to watch it back)

    Cheers JB

    Jon Barrie
    Adobe Video Solutions Consultant ANZ
    Jon’s YouTube Tutorial Page
    follow Jon with twitter

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