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Informal NLE poll
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I can only speak to certain corporate and educational facilities in the Seattle/Bellevue/Redmond area which I have found to be a mix of Premiere and FCP10. It’s not monolithic in any particular corporation either as some groups (at a large Redmond corporation as one example) use Premiere and other groups use FCPX10 exclusively. Not much AVID, no FCP7, and no Resolve.
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Seems relevant to this thread:
https://5thingsseries.com/the-truth-about-video-editing-software-in-hollywood/
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[Oliver Peters] “Seems relevant to this thread:
https://5thingsseries.com/the-truth-about-video-editing-software-in-hollywoo...
“Something I see come up often is how much a tool costs (this came up in the YouTube comments for Michael’s video) but what doesn’t seem to get brought up along side that is how much a tool earns. Is generating revenue so unimportant? ????
For example, with how little FCP X work there is in my neck of the woods the fact that it’s only $299 isn’t very relevant because I’d be very hard pressed to find work using X compared to Avid or PPro. On the flip side, the money from my very first Premiere Pro gig 3.5yrs ago could keep my subscription active until I’m around 110 (assuming no price changes).
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[Andrew Kimery] “Something I see come up often is how much a tool costs… but what doesn’t seem to get brought up along side that is how much a tool earns. Is generating revenue so unimportant?”
Where is this place that pays you differently based on what editing tool you use? I keep hearing rumors of it, but where I come from (Seattle) editors (at least of my generation) get paid for their editing experience and sensibility. Some clients want me to use Premiere and some want me to use FCP10, but they all pay me my standard rate. I’m sure I would be paid the same if I were asked to use AVID.
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and then you see an article like this on fcp.co
https://www.fcp.co/final-cut-pro/articles/1979-the-future-of-newsgathering-is-mojo-with-city-producerand when you say “who will be using AVID, FCP X, Adobe Premiere, Resolve” – because with the exception of the hi end (oh, I guess we are the hi end) – it’s a matter of “can’t we hire some kid, and pay him nothing, and get this job done”.
“Hey kid, do you own an iPhone – YOURE HIRED !”. At some point, someone will go to Mark Raudonis (Mr. 99% AVID for reality TV), and say to him “listen Mark, AVID Schmavid, we need to reduce our labor costs, and these damn editors are just making TOO MUCH MONEY”. The decision will be determined based on what the low priced labor knows how to use.Anyway – in Florida – Premiere, FCP X, Resolve, AVID last place (except for TV stations).
Bob Zelin
Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
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[James Culbertson] “Where is this place that pays you differently based on what editing tool you use?”
Two fold. First off, I typically freelance for unscripted TV shows, documentaries, in-house production wings of large companies, and other similar situations where the post workflow is pre-established so I need to go with the flow (which in LA is either MC or PPro these days). Pretty much no one in my neck of the woods uses X (I’ve seen more jobs for Cantonese speaking editors than for editors to work using X).
Secondly, larger productions with larger budgets almost always use MC. You don’t get paid more (or less) because of the NLE, you get paid more for working on a project with a bigger budget which most likely means you’ll be using MC.
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And up here in Seattle I worked for two years for a group at a large Redmond-based corporation with a huge budget that required I use FCP10 and it was an exceedingly profitable time for me. So, what I am trying to say is that how much you make isn’t dependent upon what NLE you know. But you should know the NLE that is required, and that may or may not vary from group to group, or region to region.
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[James Culbertson] “So, what I am trying to say is that how much you make isn’t dependent upon what NLE you know. But you should know the NLE that is required, and that may or may not vary from group to group, or region to region.”
Exactly my point. Sorry if I wasn’t clear enough in my previous posts.
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I am SO happy I get to choose which NLE I use. 😀
\”Constituo, ergo sum\”
Bob Woodhead / Atlanta
CMX-Quantel-Avid-Premiere-FCPX-AFX-Crayola
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[Bob Woodhead] “I am SO happy I get to choose which NLE I use. :D”
Oddly enough over the past 17yrs there’s only been two times I’ve been unhappy with the chosen NLE and both of those times I had a hand in choosing which NLE was used. ????
The first was when I was fresh out of college and built my own PC for editing based on Premiere and the Matrox RT2500. I had used MC in college (well, technically Media Express), had barely touched FCP 1.0, and never owned a Mac. I was already a ‘pc guy’ so going with Premiere seemed the best and most cost effective route. Little did I know that in LA at the time you either used MC (for budgeted projects) or FCP (for lo/no budget projects). No one took you seriously if you used Premiere (which at the time had a rep for only being good for weddings and corporate videos). Looking back, trying to find a way to afford a Mac and FCP would’ve been much more difficult, but it also would’ve been a better use of my money.
The second time was a few years ago when I worked on a documentary with another editor. Long story short, we were debating between PPro and MC. It had a lot of stills that would need to be manipulated so we were leaning towards PPro because Avid’s pretty kludgey in that regard, but we were only a very tight deadline and much more familiar with the ins and outs of Avid when turning over sound and picture to be finished out of house. In the end we went with the devil we knew (Avid), but in retrospect I think PPro would’ve been fine on the turnovers and it certainly would’ve been been a better cutting experience given all the stills we used. That project certainly leaned on PPro’s strengths more than it leaned on Avid’s strengths.
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