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  • Independent PSD Files? Bug? Feature?

    Posted by Lachlan Phillips on October 9, 2007 at 2:57 am

    Hi, I’ve used FCP since version 2. Often I’ll do several different copies of a video for different regions, so everything is identical, but a single tag graphic might say a different region.

    I’ve always made a Photoshop File with the 20 different regions as layers, gone through 20 duplicated sequences and turned off/turned on the appropriate layers.

    In Final Cut Pro 6 I find this no longer works as it has decided that the PSD is somehow a master clip or something. I don’t really understand what it’s doing, but I’ll change one of the Tag graphics to the appropriate layer for that sequence, and it will change EVERY sequence. It won’t let me click the “make independent clip” button (greyed out) and i’m not even sure if i’m barking up the right tree here…

    Does anyone understand what’s going on here? I’m sure there’s some genius logic to this new “feature” but I can’t for the life of me figure it out 🙂 Any help would really be appreciated

    Cheers
    Lachlan

    Lachlan Phillips replied 18 years, 11 months ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Rafael Amador

    October 9, 2007 at 5:14 am

    Hi Lachlan,
    I just intalled FCS2 and I haven’t see the problem until you mencion it. Is as you say, If you change something in the .psd, the change affect to all the instances of that document.
    The only workaround that I found is making copies of the .psd in the brownser with different names (ie: Sill1.psd, Still2.psd, etc), make the changes you need in any of those copies and them copy and paste the atributes (content only) of those .psd to each of your sequences.
    Hope this will be fixed.
    rafael

  • Walter Biscardi

    October 9, 2007 at 10:01 am

    If you’re using the same PSD file for each of these Sequences, then yes, I would expect the behavior you’re describing. If all the sequences are referencing back to the same PSD sequence, whatever you change will be reflected across the board.

    I do the same thing for all my Good Eats episodes where I’ll make a single PSD file for all the lower thirds, generally 20 – 50 per show. But I simply edit the layers into the main show timeline, I don’t keep turning on / off the layers in the PSD timeline.

    What I would do if you want to keep the same workflow is either edit the layers into your main timeline or create duplicates of the master PSD file for each timeline.

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  • Lachlan Phillips

    October 9, 2007 at 10:36 am

    Hey thanks for the reply,

    I’ve got a workaround which involves importing the file into each sequence, copy/pasting the filters, motion, opacity etc etc onto the new file, dropping it into place, reapplying any transitions etc… that lets me have independent clips…

    What I want though, is to do the edit, duplicate the entire sequence 20 times, and then just change the inner sequence of the PSD to reflect the appropriate change. (or better yet, pay someone to do the change.. not something I can do when it’s as involved as version 6 makes it)

    It’s always worked in past versions. I’m guessing that there’s a legitimate answer relating to “make independent clip” or the whole “master clip” dark art that was introduced in version 6….

  • Rafael Amador

    October 9, 2007 at 11:55 am

    Thinking twice, I think that now FC2 is doing the things properly. The normal thing should be like this. If you use the same .psd in few places of your sequences and for any reason you want to change something, now is easier to change it at once in all the places you have set your .psd. Before you should go one by one making the same change. The same use to happens with the nested sequences. Before, when you had copies of the same nest and you wanted to change something you has to do it in each of the duplicated nests.
    Time to go back to the manual.
    Cheers,
    rafael

  • Lachlan Phillips

    October 9, 2007 at 12:21 pm

    Yeah, I guess it is definitely more logically consistent now in version 6… it treats the photoshop files like nests… (which technically they are)

    So in that respect it works much like after effects…

    After effects gets away with it tho because there’s a quick easy way to replace a nest/composite… (so you can quickly replace it with an altered duplicate nest)

    is there a similar quick replace of a nest in FCP you can think of to save having to copy and paste all the attributes, make sure it’s in the same position etc etc etc?

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